Debate: Is Astrology A Science?

Astrology, an ancient system of divination often associated with horoscopes and the zodiac, has been a subject of debate in the scientific community. While some believe in the power of astrology and its ability to provide insights into human behavior and events, others argue that it lacks scientific credibility and should not be considered a valid scientific discipline. Astrology has the trappings of science: making predictions, relieving on calculations, and dealing in systems and structures.

However, there is no scientific evidence to back up its impact on our personality and lives. Astrology is not a very scientific way to answer questions, as astrologers do not usually attempt to critically evaluate whether those predictions are accurate. Astrology has the trappings of science: it makes predictions, relies on calculations, and deals in systems and structures.

The ongoing debate surrounding astrology is a captivating intersection of ancient beliefs and modern skepticism. Astrology has evolved from ancient astronomy and is considered a pseudoscience due to its historical origins, scientific principles, skepticism, criticism, and role in popular culture and media.

A study from Science Communication revealed that the mere “ology” suffix led participants to rate astrology as more scientific, indicating potential usefulness in our present day. However, astrology is not based in the logic of cause and effect, making it a pseudoscience due to its lack of progress and refusal to deal with a large body of critical scientific studies.


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Who created astrology?

Astrology, a branch of divination, originated in Mesopotamia around the 3rd millennium BC and spread to India. It developed its Western form in Greek civilization during the Hellenistic period. Astrology entered Islamic culture as part of the Greek tradition and was returned to European culture through Arabic learning during the Middle Ages. According to the Greek tradition, the heavens are divided according to the 12 constellations of the zodiac, with bright stars casting spiritual influences on human affairs.

Astrology was also important in ancient China, with horoscopes being cast for newborns and life-changing events. Despite the Copernican system eradicating the geocentric worldview required for astrology, interest in astrology has continued into modern times, with astrological signs believed to influence personality.

What does psychology say about astrology?

Astrology is a tool for understanding one’s self-identity and self-conception. According to Jennifer Freed, PhD, it serves as a validation for one’s unique gifts and provides confirmation and encouragement. Astrology is likened to a beautiful staircase, where one must walk mindfully and hold onto a solid foundation. Humans tend to remember positive feedback that validates their self-conception over negative feedback, making it easy to accept the ambiguous and positive aspects of astrology. This approach helps individuals develop their unique gifts and take mindful steps towards self-discovery.

What does the Bible say about astrology?

In Matthew 28:18, Jesus asserts that all authority in heaven and on earth has been given to him. This contradicts biblical wisdom, as chasing after false gods is a sin. There is no biblical evidence that God has given authority to stars or astrologists. Pursuing predictions about our destiny or personality is biblically sinful, as it takes power from God and gives it to something other than God. A horoscope cannot change what God has already ordained before we were even created.

When did people stop believing in astrology?
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When did people stop believing in astrology?

Astrology has been a scholarly tradition throughout its history, connected with other studies like astronomy, alchemy, meteorology, and medicine. However, new scientific concepts in astronomy and physics, such as heliocentrism and Newtonian mechanics, challenged its academic and theoretical standing. Astrology, in its broadest sense, is the search for meaning in the sky. Early evidence for humans making conscious attempts to measure, record, and predict seasonal changes by reference to astronomical cycles appears as markings on bones and cave walls, showing that lunar cycles were being noted as early as 25, 000 years ago.

Farmers addressed agricultural needs with increasing knowledge of the constellations that appear in different seasons, and used the rising of particular star-groups to herald annual floods or seasonal activities. By the 3rd millennium BCE, civilizations had sophisticated awareness of celestial cycles and may have oriented temples in alignment with heliacal risings of the stars.

Scattered evidence suggests that the oldest known astrological references are copies of texts made in the ancient world, such as the Venus tablet of Ammisaduqa, which is thought to have been compiled in Babylon around 1700 BCE. A scroll documenting an early use of electional astrology is doubtfully ascribed to the reign of the Sumerian ruler Gudea of Lagash, but there is controversy about whether these were genuinely recorded at the time or merely ascribed to ancient rulers by posterity.

The oldest undisputed evidence of the use of astrology as an integrated system of knowledge is attributed to the records of the first dynasty of Babylon (1950-1651 BCE), which had some parallels with Hellenistic Greek astrology.

How true is astrology?
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How true is astrology?

Astrology, a long-standing scientific field, has been criticized for lacking clear evidence that stars and planets affect us. Astrology relies on stories and ideas that are difficult to prove with science, as it relies on guessing about patterns in the sky rather than conducting experiments. Additionally, astrology’s workings are based on old ideas about the universe, which have evolved over time. This has led to some astrologers’ predictions not aligning with current knowledge.

For example, the zodiac sign may not be accurate due to precession, which has caused stars to move since the first invention of astrology. Furthermore, astrology lacks a clear explanation for how stars and planets could affect us, with some astrologers suggesting it is due to the stars, but scientists argue these theories are too weak to have a significant impact on us.

Is astrology scientifically correct?
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Is astrology scientifically correct?

Astrology is considered pseudoscience due to its lack of scientific validity and effectiveness in controlled studies. There is no proposed mechanism for how stars and planets affect people and events on Earth, which contradicts well-understood aspects of biology and physics. Modern scientific inquiry focuses on the correlation between astrological traditions and seasonal birth in humans. Most professional astrologers rely on astrology-based personality tests and make predictions about the remunerator’s future.

Those who continue to believe in astrology are characterized as doing so despite the lack of verified scientific basis and strong evidence to the contrary. Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson emphasized the importance of understanding how nature shapes the world around us, as without this knowledge, individuals can easily become victims of those seeking to take advantage of them.

Is there any truth in astrology?
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Is there any truth in astrology?

Astrology, a long-standing scientific field, has been criticized for lacking clear evidence that stars and planets affect us. Astrology relies on stories and ideas that are difficult to prove with science, as it relies on guessing about patterns in the sky rather than conducting experiments. Additionally, astrology’s workings are based on old ideas about the universe, which have evolved over time. This has led to some astrologers’ predictions not aligning with current knowledge.

For example, the zodiac sign may not be accurate due to precession, which has caused stars to move since the first invention of astrology. Furthermore, astrology lacks a clear explanation for how stars and planets could affect us, with some astrologers suggesting it is due to the stars, but scientists argue these theories are too weak to have a significant impact on us.

Do any scientists believe in astrology?
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Do any scientists believe in astrology?

Astrology has been largely abandoned in scientific studies due to its inability to establish the validity of its ideas. Researchers, on the other hand, are more focused on testing their own ideas and presenting counterarguments and alternative hypotheses. Astrologers, on the other hand, do not rigorously examine their astrological ideas, leading to a minimal level of research and a lack of critical evaluation of their arguments. Astrology is not a scientific method to answer questions, as it does not attempt to critically evaluate the validity of its explanations against natural evidence.

This is a crucial aspect of science, where scientists evaluate their ideas against natural evidence and reject or modify them when evidence does not support them. Astrologers, on the other hand, do not take the same critical perspective on their own astrological ideas.

When was astrology considered a science?
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When was astrology considered a science?

The Silk Roads played a significant role in cultural exchange and the development of various scientific disciplines, including medicine, mathematics, geography, cartography, and astronomy. Astrology, a broad field concerned with the search for meaning and predictive information in the sky, was one such discipline that was widely accepted in political and cultural circles.

During the Tang (705-907 CE) period, foreign systems of astrology were adopted in China, particularly the practice of ‘horoscopy’, predictions made by an astrologer based on the position of the sun at the time of a person’s birth or the calendar significance of an event. Astrology often acted as a medium of transmission of other knowledge bases, predominantly from Indo-Iranian sources, especially within astronomy and the close mathematical observation of stars and planets.

Indian astrology was often introduced into new regions of Central Asia, the Iranian Plateau, and China alongside the introduction of Buddhism, another significant shared legacy of these trade routes. Early Islamic astrologers included numerous Indian theories in their works, most of which reached them via texts written in Middle Persian during a time when direct translations into Arabic of many scientific texts from Ancient Greek and Indian sources were made.

In Medieval Central Asia, two distinct versions of the discipline emerged: one focused on mathematical theories and precise astronomical measurements, and the other on the interpretation of magical elements to make predictions. Al-Biruni, a polymath, differentiated astrology from astronomy, arguing that the former was more of an art or practice and criticizing its weak mathematical and scientific foundations. He also emphasized his theory that astrology is not a science through analysis of astrological doctrines from Ancient Greece, the Indian subcontinent, the Iranian Plateau, and Central Asian regions.

Does everyone believe in astrology?

Astrology is a popular practice among Americans, French, and Mexicans, despite its lack of accuracy. This is due to its profitability, with astrology apps earning $40 million in the US in 2019. However, astrology relies on confirmation bias and the Barnum effect, which are mental mechanisms that can influence the selection, retention, and evaluation of evidence. This bias is influenced by prior beliefs and expectations, as people tend to look for information that supports their ideas and ignore contradictory information. As a result, astrology is increasingly promoted online, attracting more people into the market.

Is astrology a pure science?
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Is astrology a pure science?

The practice of astrology, which encompasses a sophisticated system of mathematical and astronomical calculations, has been employed for millennia in diverse cultural and societal contexts to gain insight into and interpret the world. Additionally, it can be utilized as a means of self-discovery and personal growth. Although it may not offer empirical proof in the same way as some scientific disciplines, it is still regarded as a valid form of knowledge.


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Debate: Is Astrology A Science?
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  • One of the best points i picked up was that celestial affairs will only bring a causality if the human will act on it. Indicative is a sort of indirect version of causality. Ie, if someone thinks on the summer solstice, what shall I do today? They may end up hanging out and enjoying the sun (Cancer). If they do so in the winter solstice, they may endeavor to stay busy, to see family, to keep the wheel of inner security and survival turning (Capricorn). They won’t necessarily act on those impulses (ie, they are not directly causal). But the environment is certainly indicative of those decisions. These are obvious examples. But the planets moving to and from exaltation, aspects etc, are also indicative of certain impulses in the cosmos, due to the ‘celestial environs’ at the time. Thus the ‘fatalism’ which Ptolemy and the scientists ascribed to astrology were ignorant to the magick of human will, ritual, ceremony, cognition, and spontaneity. These latter qualities were things which the originators of astrology were not ignorant of, and knew to include them in the total appreciation of astrology as a “divinatory science.” Wherever this discussion goes from here, i’m here for it! 🎉

  • I had a series of dreams that led me to a particular place at a particular time where I met someone I had known about and admired for decades. Months later I looked at an asteroid chart for that evening and we both had asteroids with our names on them at 22 Leo and I was born on 22 August. Thats As As Above So Below enough for me.

  • Very interesting and Vic, you are definitely answering a huge question that astrology faces all the time. It would he great if you could cite your research with some other books that talk about this. Such as where did you read avout the indicative and causal models. I couldn’t seem to find anything on this when looking it up. Would be great if you could share some resources.

  • Just like those who claim to understand communism and seek to undermine Marx have only read Volume 1 of Capital, those such as Michael Hudson who have read all 3 volumes and truly understand Marx will tell us we are not understanding communism; Vic has bothered to cover vast amounts of historical data and can tell us, if we think Astrology is not scientific, we truly dont know what we are talking about!

  • The think with Astrology is that its not exact. And even experienced, good astrologers cannot read the chart correctly, and at times make some mistakes. And there is always an edge case to explain that they missed. That’s my only gripe; I think big picture is quite accurate, details and especially contextualizing the symbology to individual attitudes and soceital norms is where the problem lies.

  • May be the science is not capable yet to know far more advanced things. So come up epigenetics, quantum mechanics, dark energy etc. They were forced to admit they were completely wrong. Except very few scientists like Tesla, oppenheimer etc were having glimpse of reality & matrix. Science should to go in depth of the subject and open itself.

  • wonderful distinction between causation and indication. i’ve been thinking along the same lines. i’m fond of saying “co-responding” with respect to different parts of reality and experience, attributing causation to God, a practice inimical to modern, atheistic thinkers. p.s. their rocket shows are money laundering exercises, clearly (metal?) balloons slowly rising with fireworks beneath, launched towards bermuda or pacific (where there be dragons, curious wanderer!… they don’t tell you the sea dragons are actually navy ships ready to kill you)… anyway—what was i saying? 😅 the parabola gives away they’re dodging the heavens/firmament, although they’ll happily illustrate a phallic flight path and stick it in your face. ah you got to give some credit.

  • I don’t see astrology as a science but as an art. Science is a lagging indicator whereas art is at the cutting edge and cannot necessarily be contained or explained. Having said that, if we view science through the lens of Karl Popper’s epistemology, astrology is lacking in being classified as such. In Popper’s view knowledge progresses through a process of conjectures and refutations, and the astrology community does not use a scientific method of falsifying a theory to see where its bounds end, it’s more of a vibe which cannot be quantified. And it doesn’t necessarily need to for it to work to be honest, but it won’t fit the scientific criteria. Further into the epistemology talk, I like David Deutch’s improvements on Karl Popper where he says that a good scientific explanation has to have as little moving parts as possible. Meaning that let’s say you change Saturn with an asteroid, or with Jupiter, your predictive theory should fall apart. If you take out Saturn for an asteroid your predictions should go south and that’s a great start, but not the end towards a good explanation. Hell, change the Zodiac to some other newly invented constellations and see if you can still make predictions right. It’s about throwing rocks into the system until you see what remains intact.

  • You making good points and attack the current science, which are the (bought) priests of atheism. But why you misuses in your books Śrīmad Bhāgavata as a “prove” to falsy promote that the earth is round? The Vedas and jyotis-śāstras are very clear, they all described a geocentric model and a flat earth. The atheisic science you attack here are exactly the ones who promote the atheisic world view, that we floating in space around the sun and that the earth is round. This they do to give no meanings to our life, that everything is random, to give thr impression there is no God-Creator, which is of course not true. The (flat) geocentric earth is a perfect clock, in which the planets and zodiacs orbit around the earth, and thus we can read the lifes in the “stars”. In the Śrīmad Bhāgavata itself you find plenty of verses that it is the sun who moves not the earth. Also i found plenty of verses in the Gosvāmīs books and other Purāṇas. This all speaks against a globe and the helliocentric earth model.

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