Did Roosevelt Know About The Plot At Pearl Harbor?

The “back door to war” theory suggests that President Franklin D. Roosevelt provoked the Japanese military to attack the US naval base at Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941. Rumors have circulated that Roosevelt knew about Japan’s plan to attack Pearl Harbor and just let it happen. However, there is no evidence to support this conspiracy theory, which has been a source of controversy in World War II.

The causes behind the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor date back nearly a decade before the attacks occurred. During the 1930s, Japan began expanding its borders, leading to the “back door to war” theory. Some conspiracy theorists argue that Roosevelt had prior knowledge of the attack, while others claim he tricked the Japanese.

Various unproven conspiracy theories allege that U.S. government officials had advance knowledge of Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor. However, there is no evidence to support this theory. The causes behind the attack date back nearly a decade earlier, with Japan expanding its borders during the 1930s.

According to Rusbridger, Churchill knew of the Japanese plan because of the devastating aerial attack on the US naval base at Pearl Harbor. The next day, the United States attacked the US naval base at Pearl Harbor, marking one of the most notorious surprise attacks in history.

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  • I have only recently asked myself the question “Did FDR bait the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor so American citizens would get behind FDR and entering the war?” So far in the past few days of research, I fully believe he baited Japan into attacking the USA at Pearl Harbor to be able to enter the war not just in the Pacific but in Europe also. Don’t get me wrong I’m not letting Japan off the hook for what they did, not at all. But my distrust of politicians has grown immensely after what I’ve read and the different articles of those that have done much more research than I have into the attack at Pearl Harbor and WWII.

  • Well let’s see, a Japanese sub was sank, and no alert went out, there was literally a newspaper article saying it was going to happen, no alert went out, unidentified aircraft were picked up on radar, no alert went out, and the important ships were not in the harbor. It should also be noted, that after be were attacked by Japan, the majority of the resources went over to Europe (in addition to what was already being shipped there), which is where FDR wanted to be in the first place.

  • The apologetic that the USN Intelligence with Edwin Layton etc…failed and “lost” the location of the Japanese First Fleet was b.s. The US was warned by another country that the Fleet was sailing NorthEast. The ONI had tracked the Fleet to within 300 miles of Honolulu (Ranneft quoted by Toland in Infamy).

  • FDR desperately wanted to declare war on Germany. He pushed the Japanese to attack by embargoing their oil. He sacrificed Pearl and got into WWII through the back door. 9/11 was Pearl Harbor II. The neocons sacrificed the towers which were in need of major repair to declare war on Iraq. There is no doubt and no reason to debate because the facts confirm Pearl 1 was not a surprise attack and that 9/11 was a false flag operation. This is how our Government works but Americans are propagandized from birth with the myth that America is God’s Country.

  • As most of the USA involvements in other countries’ wars, the political establishment were against the opinion of the majority of the population, which were mostly against conflagration. Considering that, when you look at the story of the US, most of their forays into foreign wars started with either false flag attacks (As the Maine’s sinking) or by baiting or not stopping attacks that were either induced or permitted (9/11, Pearl Harbor). You can see this as a necessary move in order to stop dangerous movements from escalating or as plots to intervene and maintain their status quo as an imperialistic force. I tend to favor the latter, because in the countries’ history, they mostly used their power to subjugate, manipulate and exploit other nations, instead of rising to the challenge of fighting for the common good of all people’s. Something else to consider is what kind of world would we live in today if the Axis wasn’t defeated. I’d say that the result could have been much grimmer in that case. But still, the lesser of two evils, is till evil.

  • Funny thing is that Admiral Husband Kimmel was approached by a man named Tom some time after Pearl Harbor, Tom asked him, Tom: Did recieve any information about any attack? Kimmel: No I didn’t recieve any information! Tom: Have you heard about Operation Magic? Kimmel: Tom what the hell is Operation Magic?

  • I’ve seen it argued that Roosevelt would have gotten the war he wanted even if Hawaii had been ready and had successfully protected the fleet at Pearl Harbor. It still would have been an “unprovoked” attack by Japan and still would have provided a “casus belli” for the U.S. going to war. But the American sentiment back then was still very much against getting involved in a war. So FDR did not want an unsuccessful attack by Japan. He wanted a cause of outrage. He wanted Americans to rise up in anger and hatred, willing to make any sacrifice to destroy Japan for its shedding of American blood. Five or six dead Americans in an attack successfully rebuffed might not work. 2,000 dead Americans in a “sneak attack” probably would. I still think our codebreakers knew what was coming, that Stinnett’s book is essentially correct, and that Kimmel and Short were deliberately deceived to ensure Japan’s attack played out as it did.

  • Ridiculous! Why would all those front line battle ships be left to be destroyed? Surely they would have some out of harbor in training to protect them. Why have the whole fleet wiped out? You know you will need them after declaration, and If the BB’s were so expendable, then why go through all the agony and trouble to resurrect them? I also reject the aircraft carrier protection theory. This argument is totally counter-intuitive. The main naval battle doctrine prior to the attack highly favored the BB’s over the CV’s. This just makes no sense.

  • It’s awesome to see so many other Americans waking up to all the lies we’ve been told about EVERYTHING. Idk how old you are but I didn’t learn any of these truths until I was in my 30s. When I look back on how naive my worldview was for the first 3 decades of life I’m ashamed. But my parents and teachers, the society and the institutions that informed my worldview were all just as naive as I was. Now, to see how much my boomer parents and their friends worldviews have changed, it’s surreal. I honestly don’t know many people in real life who haven’t had their worldview totally turned upside down starting at least in 2016. Everyone knows and it’s sad to see them all going through the stages of grief when they’re first confronted with this information. Once they’ve made it past the denial phase and into the acceptance phase, you can really see how hurt they are by the truths. But all the other stages, the denial and anger, the bargaining, that’s hard to watch. It’s amazing the ways people will lie to themselves to avoid having to accept that they’ve been wrong, fooled, lied to their whole lives. And even now the grief of our worldview isn’t over. We’re still learning new and difficult truths, and many of us still fall back into some of those patterns of anger at the messengers and even denial. I’m glad you’re learning the truth. My only advice would be to make sure you adjust your behavior and worldview accordingly. I know so many people who have learned so many truths about the lies of history, but bc they’ve not aligned themselves completely with this new reality, they find themselves behaving, thinking, and speaking as if they’d not learned anything.

  • No, he did not. There was some intelligence that the japanese were getting ready for something, the us had it’s own spies in japan who reported the military was being very hush hush and that the navy was performing exercises, but what when and where were not known. And it was simply taken as a given that if the Japanese were going to attack the US, it would have to be in the Philippines; it was simply written off as impossible for them to move that many ships that deep into US waters without being detected. Which says a lot more for how thoroughly they planned the attack. I know in the post Iraq war reality of today it’s in vogue to imagine all politicians as so diabolically evil as to be barely human. But try putting down the bong and turning off infowars. Roosevelt was a lifelong navy man, as secretary of the navy he had overseen the refurbishment of the pacific fleet, it was practically his love child. No way he was going to casually toss it away, particularly not when there were plenty of ways he could have staged a false flag operation to get the US into the war that wouldn’t have involved something so stupidly self defeating. And don’t be stupid enough to fall for the Nazi revisionism being pushed in the comments. The American people did NOT want Germany or Japan to win. By the time of Pearl Harbor the bulk of the public had come to regard US intervention in the war as inevitable, even if reluctantly so, and that’s why they re-elected Roosevelt on a platform of keeping the US out of he war-unless it became absolutely necessary to.

  • Here’s something to think about for those who believe this idea. Imagine if the attack on Pearl Harbour had, instead of ending up as a Japanase victory, ended up as an American victory after a successfull counter attack on the Japanese fleet. Do you think the Americans would have just shrugged the attack off and pretended it didn’t happen, or do you think they have gone to war anyway. Remember that with days of the Pearl harbor attack the Japanese had launched attacks on the Philippines, Hong Kong, Guam, Malaya and other places.

  • He absolutely baited Japan to attack so as to get into an unpopular war. Its no coincidence that the aircraft carriers were not at Pearl during a heightened alert of possible attack. The Japanese Ambassador and his Aid went to the white house to meet with FDR to discuss the possibility of war if he wouldn’t allow the sale of oil, steel and lumber to Japan. . .FDR never took that meeting, the Secretary of State did and he simply told the Ambassador that FDR is standing by his decision even if it means War. FDR had no choice, it was the only way to get the US involved in the war in Europe. Had Congress and the American people did what was right and went into Poland when Hilter invaded we could’ve not only stopped Hitler in his tracks but also Pearl Harbor never would’ve had to happen.

  • In Samuel Eliot Morrison’s U. S. History of Naval Operations of World War 2,he stated that all embassies were sent the message to send locations of all warships in ports near the embassies, not just Pearl Harbor alone! Also about the carriers, most Navy admirals considered battleships as the main offensive weapons not carriers!

  • Wake up. Roosevelt is Jewish. Rosenfeld was the first name and he wasn’t regarded as one of the first founders of Jewry in this country, either. I have a book out there with the pedigree of all the Jews in it written by a Jew which I can show you …some of them more famous Jews than he. – Charles Coughlin, 1970 Since the election of Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1932 this country has been educated to a new phase in government … Or shall we say that which it is? It is assuredly “Freedom and planning” adapted to the United States … Stripped of all its commouflage, it is a guild form of government … The guild form of government is directly the opposite of the constitutional form of government, It is the Jewish plan of a world estate. – Louis McFadden, U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania, 1934 President Roosevelt intends to repeat the “Pax Judaica” of Woodrow Wilson who led the United States into the World War because he acted on behalf of Morgenthau, Warburg, Jacob Schiff, Louis Brandeis, Kuhn, Loeb & Co., all Jewish bankers of New York and masters of the world. President Wilson was able to put across his cheme because 20 percent of America’s population was Jewish then, but it is easier now, because the number of Jews number 40 percent of the total population today and because Roosevelt himself is a Jew. – from a Roman newspaper, 1940 From the viewpoint of eugenics, it (FDR’s Jewish background) explains his natural bent toward radicalism … and proves unmistakably, that the Roosevelt administration offers a biological, as well as a political problem.

  • It is interesting to note all the speculation about FDR’s possible motives as well as what he would and would not have done. According to most people who knew him, as well as journalists and historians, it was impossible to know what FDR was up to. That was his MO. He described himself as a juggler who never let his right hand know what his left hand was doing and, he said, he was willing to lie if it would help him win the war. Well, what would he have done to win the “American century”? What would he have done to assure the future of the United Nations? We don’t associate Franklin Roosevelt with the atomic bomb because of the historic emphasis on Truman’s decision. But it was FDR who made the unilateral and secret decision to create the weapon. The bomb was on the ballot in 1944 (as a secret, of course). most historians insist that Truman did not know about the bomb until he was inaugurated, but there are some dissenters. Senator Truman headed the committee that had oversight on defense spending but agreed to look away from the massive construction project in Hanford Washington when instructed to do so by Secretary of War Henry Simpson and General George Marshall. This suggests at least a remote possibility that bomb may have had something to do with FDR’s choice of running mate and Truman sudden upset victory at the Democratic National Convention in mid-July 44. There were already plans in the works to use the bomb against Japan; that was the target FDR himself mentioned in the fall of 1943.

  • What was the reason for moving the Pacific Fleet to Hawaii in the first place? No Japanese fleet could have sailed to San Diago without being spotted. Plus Japanese Oilers were slow and couldn’t have been available to refuel the Japanese fleet. It was a set up from the beginning. I hope FDR is rotting in hell.

  • Why would they let their ships get blown up even if they’re old they’re still the best weapon they ha? Except for the fact that they were too slow to be used in any practical capacity with destroyers and cruisers which were more practical to make, faster, and way more effective than old WW1 battleships that weren’t really used and were replaced by newer bigger battle ships before the end of the war. People seem to know all this information about American ships but forget about the Bismarcks and Yamatos and aircraft carriers that the rest of the world was building. Some of the biggest problems with old BBs in WW2 include,lack of speed to keep up with the main fleet, being outgunned, being battle worn, rusty, and 20 years out of date. They existed in a time where most ships AA defenses were designed to take down bi planes made of wood and fabric not armored bombers, bf109s and zeros. Is it really worth investing money into a ship that’s slower than the average submarine and has virtually 0 air defenses when you could just scrap it and build a new one?

  • Let’s ask a legitimate question devoid of today’s world of shouting down anyone who doesn’t agree, m’kay. How often was Pearl devoid of any aircraft carriers? Not even the newest North Carolina BB’s were in Pearly on 12/7/41. Anyone else wonder how it is that the only BB’s were WW1 era aka obsolescent? This is in no way to disparage the sailors. I have this ability to visualize exactly how I would behave in wild ass situations. If I was FDR using the Japanese to strike the first blow so we could get into WW2 I guess I’d leave some bait, right? But not the really good stuff like carriers and our most modern battleships. Well wouldn’t you? Does this prove fdr was complicit? No. Does it give one to think? YES. 😎

  • Conspiracy or No, the fact remains that our involvement in the War (starting with the lend lease program in 1940-and greatly accelerating with boots on the ground in 1942,) got us out of the Great Depression. I personally think that FDR’s policies helped-Unemployment went from maybe 25% in 1933 (37% of all non-farm workers) to 14% in 1939. But-things were still BAD. Pearl Harbor kicked the Government in the Butt. SO: 1. Many more workers were hired for wartime production (including women.) 2. The twelve million men who were sent abroad were obviously not counted among the unemployed. 3. The Postwar Recession was short-lived because of a. what we would now call “Killer apps.” Televisions and then transistor radios. Passenger jets came ten years later. The public fed their hunger for new automobiles. b. VA home loans which put returning GIs in new homes in the suburbs c. About 400,000 American soldiers tragically were killed, and thus weren’t in line for jobs. Several times that many were severely handicapped or probably went Mad, and also didn’t work. d. The millions of working women were almost entirely replaced by returning men who married them-time to be Good little Baby machines. Hitler’s militarization ended The Depression in Germany (this was a Worldwide Depression.) He was a Monster, and then he got Greedy, and fortunately, was Doomed to lose. I think the Irony in all of this, is that without the Axis Powers, and The War, the US would have been in the Doldrums for quite a few more years.

  • Roosevelt did bait the Japanese into going to war with the US, however he probably didn’t expect aN attack on Pearl Harbor. He probably thought they would attack the Philippines. I mean if you wouldn’t want sacrifice a major important portion of the Fleet. In 1941, they still thought battleships were superior to aircraft carriers.

  • Hey folks! Here’s something I noticed myself. Guam was considered unimportant to the USA. The small marine station there had growing fears of a Japanese attack months before Pearl Harbor. They requested support, as they only had a few bolt action rifles, and very few machine guns, as well as no planes and a single, tiny ship. The request for aid was denied. In fact, in the 1930’s, the artillery and seaplane units were removed from the island. The US navy sought to build fortifications on the island, but were rejected, the island was labeled level “F” of importance, meaning the USA said guam didn’t matter and wasn’t important. Right after Pearl Harbor, the Japanese attacked Guam. The marines tried to defend what they could, but they were completely outgunned and outnumbered. It was 5,900 Japanese troops versus only 547 marines and local militia. The island fell to Japanese rule for a few years, many civilians massacred and they rounded them up into work camps. When the marines recaptured guam, a hard battle that took a month to clear a tiny island. When they recaptured the old marine barracks, general Shepard said, “you have avenged the loss of our comrades who were overcome by a numerically superior force three days after Pearl Harbor. Under our flag this island again stands ready to fulfill its destiny as an American fortress in the Pacific.” How is an island that was labeled as unimportant, enough that they denied supporting it and even removed defenses, now considered “an American fortress in the pacific”?

  • Come on guys, even though I am Indian your soldiers gave their lives, at least respect their dignity and bravery, stop making these conspiracy theories, there is no way that at least 1 person in the White House did not question their moral values of this and did not leak it to the press or the public ………..

  • President Roosevelt did not know Pearl Harbor would be attacked by Japan. If the U.S. naval ships that were docked at Pearl Harbor were instead out to sea when Pearl Harbor was attacked, Japan would still have attacked Pearl Harbor which is a U.S. naval base and would have been more than enough reason for the U.S. to go to war with Japan. Besides that when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor it was Japan’s declaration of war on the U.S. and U.S. naval ships being attacked or not being attacked would not have changed this fact. If President Roosevelt wanted the U.S. to go to war with Japan why would President Roosevelt allow Japan to destroy or damage 19 U.S. Navy ships including all 8 battle ships, 300 airplanes and airfields which would be needed to fight Japan in the war? When I hear these conspiracy theorists say things like “this is the only possible interpretation”, “this is clear evidence”, “it makes it automatically suspect” and “all of the evidence points to” when they are using hearsay to make their case shows me that they refuse to use any logic and rational thinking before believing that this conspiracy theory is true.

  • I remember my high school civics teacher telling us about his being in the military at the time and some of his buddies telling him about the violations of military protocol at pearl harbor. Like bringing the whole fleet in and lining up the ships in harbor, lining up the airplanes instead of having them scattered around the base. Etc. He said he felt sure the government allowed pearl harbor to happen to get the people behind the war effort. (This was in the early 1980’s when he told us)

  • My father was stationed on the USS Henley DD391, transferring from the USS Ralph Talbert two weeks before the attack. He told me that he believed that the Japanese would stage a Sunday morning surprise attack because they had done it before. On Friday the CO of the Henley issued the standard orders for the weekend which included to have the ship go “Cold Iron” for the weekend. My dad had the weekend duty and was in charge of the engine room. He was so sure of the attack the he kept the boilers on line. Saturday morning the on coming OOD noticed that the boilers were still on line and placed my dad on “report” for not following orders. He was to have a “Captains Mast” on Monday. Because the Henley had its boilers on line the Henley was the first ship to get under way from anchorage. After the ship slipped its anchor my dad had to man an AA gun as over 80% of the crew had the weekend off. The original “After Action Battle Report” was so incorrect the in the late 60s it was rewritten to give a better and more accurate report. The early warning that the Henley had because it was claimed that a watch stander sounded the wrong alarm is also wrong, the watch stander and most of the weekend crew believed that there would be an attack that morning and when the first planes were spotted they knew what was happening.

  • The US Navy in Hawaii had some success deciphering the Japanese JN 25 Naval codes at the Hypo Station. At the same time Safford’s team in Washington DC had much better success working on the Japanese diplomatic code ‘purple’ . If anyone would have put the 2 together and looked at reports from Hypo in Hawaii and Magic/Purple in Washington DC there is almost 100% certainty that a conclusion that Pearl Harbor was the target would have been made. The fault, in my opinion, lies with the Redman brothers John and Joseph who in a scheme to gather bureaucratic control of codebreaking denied the experts (Safford, Rochefort) access to the material simply because their expertise would have taken the spotlight away from the Redman brothers desire for control. The Redman brothers are my first suspects in the disappearance of the Winds Message following the attack on Pearl Harbor. They had means, motive and opportunity to lose the message.

  • The USN conducted a series of “Fleet Problems” in the 1930s to test out different scenarios likely to occur in the Pacific with Japan in mind. Two such fleet problems tested the idea of aircraft bombing Pearl Harbor. One was conducted in 1932. It was titled FP-13. Another, more significant, was FP-21 conducted in May of 1940 in which three carriers (CV5, CV6 and ???) formed to attack from basically the same location as the IJN did in 1941. From memory, the pilots approached Pearl from the northwest and dropped sacks of flour on their targets and simulated strafing runs. Those two fleet problems proved that such an aerial attack on Pearl was feasible, but many in the USN officer corps didn’t believe that the Japanese could pull off such a feat. It is believed that the Japanese studied the publicly published portions of the fleet problem reviews to form their own plans.

  • In the movie ‘Tora, Tora, Tora’ Col. Bratton surmised the Japanese were going to attack the US on Sunday November 30, 1941 based decrypts and other intelligence. On the weekend of Pearl Harbor, he and his Navy counterpart realized the diplomatic messages meant war, just that they did not know the exact target and timing.

  • Both my great grandfathers were there. One was in the Tropic Lightning infantry division(25th infantry). The other flew PBY planes. The one in the infantry always maintained it was known because they were ordered to lock up all their weapons and ammo right before the attack and they never did that. Why all of the sudden did they have to put their weapons away? During the attack they didn’t wait for orders, they broke in to get their own weapons. From here to eternity mentions this.

  • The British realised that being able to read enemy messages was vital – but if you act on them without a great deal of care then you run the risk of revealing that you can read messages to the enemy. So deploying the fleet at Pearl would have been a give away. Maybe that the aircraft carries were conveniently away was a compromise decision.

  • It is always worth remembering an old saying- Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence. For example there is a story about a message the Soviet Military Intelligence intercepted that gave date and position of the start of the German invasion. Only it never came to light until after the war. The radio men copied down so many messages that there was never time to decode them all before the message became irrelevant. So only a sample were decoded and interesting ones followed up. After the war great boxes of paper record forms were used for training. Trainees would get actual enigma messages and then attempt to decode them. One of the record forms when decoded showed information that would have given weeks of notice or the invasion. Because it was not one of the samples it just got lost in the huge backlog. It’s just one of those things that happen during a war. Also one of the things conspiracy theorists grab onto because it fuels their obsessions. Even if you decode a message, is it real, is it disinformation meant to mislead, does it even mean what you think? Those in command are bombarded with information and warnings. For every valid warning that they chose to ignore there might be dozens that were meaningless or invalid. But only the errors are remembered. You can be like the Germans who swallowed a stream of fake intelligence like operation Mincemeat and Patton’s invasion army with it’s cardboard planes and inflatable tanks. Intelligence gathering that works is a long slog of picking up little bits.

  • Kichisaburo Nomura, the Japanese ambassador, and Saburo Kurusu, the Japanese special envoy, were waiting outside Hull’s office to notify him of a breakdown in negotiations between Japan and the USA. The two Japanese representatives had not been informed of the attack, and before the meeting, President Roosevelt had advised Hull not to tell them about it. Hull’s anger got the better of him, however, and Nomura and Kurusu fled the office in astonishment. And it should be noted that every single aircraft carrier in the entire western fleet was ordered out of Pearl Harbor days before the attack.

  • On December 6, 1941, the final draft of an address to Congress seeking permission for war with Japan was delivered to the White House in the event there was an attack on British or American interests in the Far East. 24 hours later it was a moot point. Everyone knew a war was coming. Probability of Japanese attempting to finish off the Pacific fleet in one go, as least in the minds of the US military, was unrealistically low. Intel is good. Understanding your enemy is better.

  • Oh is THAT why my grandparents were monitoring Tokyo Rose’s daily broadcasts for the radio signal corps?! I wish I’d asked when my grandfather was still alive. He had several health problems so he was unfit to serve, but he was good with radio sets and geek stuff, so he became an instructor for the signal corps— we always knew about the Code Talkers years before they were declassified, because he’d taught some of them how to repair radio sets in the field. But also he and my memaw used to monitor Tokyo Rose broadcasts. Memaw said they guessed the war was over when their Tokyo Rose said, “We are now advancing to the rear.”

  • The FBI did know, Dusko Popov informed them of the very real possibility of the Pearl Harbor attack. But Hoover didn’t take him serious. Not surprising since Hoover was a glory-seeking idiot, just look at how he handled the Pastorius Operation. Popov is said to have been delighted when he was informed of the attack of Pearl Harbor, he thought there would be minimal damage because the USA knew what was coming, and saw that Britain would have a very good ally with the USA. He was stunned and outraged when he learned the damage the Japanese had done. But I get that the militairy intelligence, who didn’t knew of Popov, wouldn’t expect it. Apart from Taranto, there was no earlier case of a fleet in a harbor heavily damaged by air attack from carriers, they wouldn’t have understood the dangers of a good carrier force back then.

  • In his voluminous book “At Dawn We Slept” author Donald Goldstien discussed the possibility of the US government being forewarned about the attack. Many years later Goldstien, in what was to be the books epilog sought to disprove US involvement. Some 70 years after the attack Goldstien was told that the documents had been moved from the national archives to a depository in Ohio and were classified.

  • There is a book by Robert J. Stinnett called “Day of Deceit” he was in service during all of this and compiled information to write his book. This is an interesting read for anyone that still has some curiosity on this subject. Second…How can Stafford not be credible on this subject, but we listened to him during the Midway campaign?

  • I remember perusal another of these documentaries where some American ship spotted an aircraft carrier heading towards the US in the night. The old timer they were interviewing mentioned they werent sure if it was American or Japanese because it was dark (it was the IJN fleet heading towards PH), but there’s no way they wouldn’t have mentioned it to command.

  • It has been speculated for many many decades that FDR allowed Pearl harbor to happen. You have to think of the time. America was mostly an isolationist country. In 1939 when Germany invaded Poland, we only had the 23rd largest military in the world. Most of the population thought that we had natural barriers between the Pacific and the Atlantic oceans so the majority of Americans thought, why should we get involved in a European War or in Asiatic War because you have to remember that Japan had been at war with China since 1931. What Pearl harbor did was galvanize Americans patriotism to wear eventually there were millions upon millions of Americans in the military, men and women. Whether or not FDR orchestrated it, you have to admit that it is the absolutely last war that we unequivocally won.

  • The U.S. Navy did a theoretical attack on Pearl in the ’30s but didn’t know that Japan would copy it. ADM Richardson,the outgoing CINCPAC, said to Pres. Roosevelt that Pearl was a deathtrap when Roosevelt ordered the Pacific Fleet moved from San Diego to Pearl. When tensions increased, even then it was thought that Japan would head south and not east. Roosevelt went so far as to send a personal message to the Japanese Emperor on December 6, the night before the Pearl Harbor attack. All this is recounted in S.E. Morrison’s History of the United States Naval Operations of W.W 2. He, at the behest of Roosevelt, became the official Naval historian after the attack and would have access to every piece of intelligence collected and all information the Japanese possessed before the attack.

  • I watched a documentary about a man named Dusko Popov, a Yugoslavian who was working for Ian Fleming in his intelligence center. Popov worked as a double agent gathering information about the Nazis and passing it on to Fleming. Popov played many roles as a spy. He was handsome and a ladies man. He was the man whom James Bond was created after. While he was infiltrating the Nazis, he learned about the Japanese plan to attack Pearl Harbor on August of 1941. Popov arrived in Washington, D.C. to warn the F.B.I. about the attack. The F.B.I. didn’t trust the information because they didn’t like the methods used in obtaining it. So, it was ignored. Adolph Hitler didn’t want a war with the U.S. . Japan was an ally to Germany along with Italy. After the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, Hitler was relieved. Popov told his account of what happened on The Mike Douglas Show in the 70’s. When he was asked about the James Bond movies, he said that Bond wouldn’t survive what he had been through.

  • Every documentary and book I have ever read has said roughly speaking we knew they’d attack but not where (There were a lot of good target areas to attack if you were the Japanese). Granted Pearl should have done some things differently (dispersing aircraft at the airfields, etc), but in my own thinking, no one but the IJN knew where exactly.

  • The Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) was advising Kimmel that Japanese spies were reporting to Tokyo what ships were at Pearl. However, ONI omitted the fact that these reports also included where the ships were located in the harbor. This information would have alerted the area commander that the ships were being targeted. SOURCE: AND I WAS THERE: PEARL HARBOR and MIDWAY BREAKING the SECRETS by Edwin T. Layton, Roger Pineau, et al. | Dec 1, 1985

  • My reading indicates that in the late 90’s freedom of information demands finally resulted in the release of documents showing that communications by the Japanese fleet were monitored during the crossing from Japan to Pearl Harbor, that Pearl Harbors commander was ordered to stand down if attacked and that much of the defense establishment was kept in the dark about the impending attack. At the same time the most modern ships in the US fleet were kept out at sea on maneuvers leaving older ships as sitting ducks. FDR himself said that nothing in politics happens by accident.

  • I like that … in 1918 the US “found” a Japanese navy codebook … which assisted in their code-breaking at the time I guess, but surely their (Japan’s) codes, and sophistication in encodement between then and 1941 would have altered significantly …. but having a rather large American/Japanese population in Hawaii and California was wasted, especially with so many of them being treated like spies … this never happened to the German and Italian Americans to the same degree, yet many of them were “newer Americans” than most of the Japanese immigrants

  • I don’t know what happened but hypothetically, if the attack had seemed to be anything less than a total surprise then the Japanese might think it was too big a coincidence that the 4 carriers weren’t there, which might have caused them to change their codes, which might have caused the Germans to do the same, and that might have changed the outcome of the war.

  • I remember perusal a documentary about Camp X in Canada. at one point the woman in the doc who was a secretary or cypher clerk said,” I don’t understand that the Americans were surprised. we knew they were going to attack”. There was never any follow up on her comment. I think they knew for sure, perhaps not exact date and time, but they knew………………

  • I’ve studied Pearl Harbor for more than 50 years and my conclusion was that FDR and his team expected war to break out with a surprise attack on the Philippines and perhaps something minor at the Panama Canal–but never expected “well-defended” Pearl Harbor or the West Coast of the United States to be attacked. Odd that there’s still classified Pearl Harbor documents, isn’t it? Eighty years ago and some parts are still classified. The Pearl Harbor raid was audacious and despite the Sunday, 7 February 1932 fleet exercise (aircraft from Saratoga and Lexington bombed Battleship Row with flour sacks and the initial ruling was total destruction of the fleet in harbor–overruled by the brass because the Black Fleet “cheated”) and the 11 November 1940 British air raid on Taranto it was felt that Pearl Harbor was impregnable, the Gibraltar of the Pacific. Imagine how surprised the US would have been if Japanese submarines surfaced off the coast of New York City and shelled the Statue of Liberty!

  • Your information is very flawed. The Japanese had separate codes for its diplomatic dept and their war department. Yes we did break the diplomatic code but they never exposed what the war plans were. The military code was partially broken just prior to midway action. All messages were saved so the can be decided for later review so it would seem as though we knew the what the plans were. This reminds me of a British similar view of the same subject

  • I look to Edwin Layton’s book, “And I Was There”. He was chief of intelligence for the Pacific Fleet from 1940 to 1945. Three points he makes: 1. There was a huge amount of infighting between DC and the separate fleets that interfered with pretty much everything. 2. FDR was trying to incite the Japanese to attack a US ship in order to justify war, but Pearl wasn’t a part of it. He had sent Phillipino-crewed but US-officered and flagged boats into the South China Sea, trying to get them attacked. 3. The Pacific Fleet intel knew that the Japanese were planning an attack. They knew the carriers had left port and were operating under radio silence, but they didn’t know where they intended to strike. They had picked up a transmission from a destroyer that had been acting as an escort for the carriers in the South China Sea, and assumed that the carriers were there, and that the target was Singapore. They had zero intel that the target would be Pearl. Everyone thought that an attack at Pearl was impossible, and stupid, because the water was too shallow for torpedoes and because sinking a ship in shallow, protected waters right next to repair facilities didn’t accomplish much. The Japanese found a technical solution to the shallow water, but the pointlessness of sinking a ship where it can easily be refloated and repaired was made evident. All but two of the ships sunk were returned to service, most within months.

  • Old Sailor here. Trust me when I say this, if there was anyway the Navy can pen the blame on someone, they will, even if they didn’t do it. This is what the Navy has always done. That’s why I’ve gradually came to the conclusion that there was no conspiracy. I’m sure there were various people who expected something to happen with Japan at some point, but very few expected the Pearl Harbor raid.

  • My assessment is that not only the winds code was previously decoded and thus easily understandable, but also Pearl Rabor was an absolute natural first target for a contender with Japanese mind set. I do not believe that the US Intelligence could not have figured that Pearl was a natural target. And… Ther were several early warnings of the attack that could — if given due imprtancw — have prevented or prepared the Hawaian forces to defend the port and the air bases

  • Following the Great War Britain planned that their next major war would be against Japan, Versailles taking out Germany. Japan was in expansionist mode and needed the oil and rubber of the British/ Dutch possessions in Malaya/Burma and Borneo. As this would require a sea invasion, defense of the area became a duty for the Royal Navy. A major naval battle was envisaged between the entire British Home fleet which having picked up the Mediterainian fleet would sail via Suez to the Far East. A major battle would result in seriously damaged capital ships so the British built a Class One repair yard in Singapore. Japan was noted as the main next enemy in very early 1920s. John

  • Major human disasters are almost never the result of a single factor. They are usually the result of several factors coming together. Pearl Harbor is a good example. No one mistake or overlooked bit of information led to this American disaster. It’s easy to look back and say, “Well this should have warned them or that should have warned them”. There was plenty going on. America’s embargo of metal and oil for Japan made conflict all but inevitable. All the senior military brass knew that. What they didn’t know was how it would unfold, where it would start and above all, when it would start. Japan’s Imperial Navy did an outstanding job of planning and executing the attack. The Americans were flat out caught with their pants down so to speak. Due to the immense toll of the attack, it was certain that a few American heads would have to roll. Someone or several people would have to take the blame, deserved or not.

  • At a family party, I met an elderly Guest named London England. Prior to WW2 he was one of a few radio operators located along the western coast of South America listening to Japans conversations. They communicated all of their findings directly to President Roosevelt. The President knew what was happening. Because of a campaign vow not get our country into another great war, he could not openly commit war without us being attacked first. Therefore, President Roosevelt had to sit and wait for an attack somewhere. They expected it to be at sea, not at Pearl Harbor. Sadly, Mr. England was burned to death in a tragedy bus fire escaping Houston from Hurricane Rita. I was saddened because here was a man probably silenced by the government and only just now being able to speak of this little known history, killed in a freak accident.

  • The FDR administration knew full well that Pearl Harbor was a primary target. Intelligence had sent them detailed information about the plans. Including the placement of ships in the harbor and a “grid map” of the area and military locations. The sole purpose of a “grid map” is for laying out an attack plan. FDR ignored it.

  • I find it amazing that the carriers and pretty much just them the main target of the attack were at a manouver ! It is supicous to say the least ! They might not knew about the attack, but there was the war in Europe and japan who they knew was trouble was allied with the axis was acting strange! Amid all this they send the carriers to a manover without any meaningful part of fleet as their bodyguard ! Very frivolous at best! Unless you know more ! After all it was unlikley that any attack on the rest of the fleet would be big enough to be serious enough to crippel the fleet so they were unable to fight back! Knowing that the industry could pretty quickly turn the tight and how valueable rallied us citizen would be (after all they were at first against the war), the rest of the fleet might have been expandable! That message if it actally turned up could pose some very uncmfortable question for some people, even today !

  • We certainly know it was possible. Our own war games had showed its effectiveness. I believe there was even requests that were either denied or delayed for more anti-aircraft defenses around Pearl harbor before the attack. It was a possibility. We knew it was a possibility and nothing major happened. If it wasn’t for The fact that most of the battleships in the fleet to begin with were outdated. It could have been a lot worse

  • The US knew something was up when they bunched up aircraft on the runways to make them easier to guard. However the need for secrecy kept the Japanese from getting more detailed intelligence from the consulate in Hawaii. In the end, Yamamoto’s plan was approved with the hopes of there being lot of high value targets in anchor. Rest is history. No carriers, the Enterprise arrived the next day and the young Japanese pilots were undisciplined in target selection.

  • the admiral in pearl was told to take defensive precautions because Japanese ships had been seen prior in the area. he still never put the torpedo nets etc up believing the Japanese were far behind technology wise and got proven wrong. said he wished the stray aa .50 cal that broke the window he was perusal from had killed him

  • It always amazes me how the internet has made so many instant experts on any given subject. Some of these folks have not read more than a single piece on the subject they “know” so well. I learned my lesson from the McDonalds hot coffee lawsuit story from way back. Know the facts or get embarrassed by those that have done the deep digging. At least there is the entertainment value of seeing these “experts” exposed.

  • I recommend the movie, Tora, Tora, Tora. I rarely quote from or recommend movies as they are usually half fantasy. This movie seems to be well researched & they use real aircraft rather then the now common computer images. According to the movie, just about every screw-up that could be made was, & at all levels. “We picked up a large formation of aircraft coming in from the north Sir”. (early radar) “Well, forget about it”.

  • The book “Infamy: Pearl Harbor and It’s Aftermath” by John Toland gives a less sympathetic view of excusing Roosevelt’s scheming than you do. Herbert Hoover, the President before Roosevelt was still a hugely respected and well connected man before the war and explained in his book “Freedom Betrayed” that Roosevelt knew this was coming and lied about knowing Japanese intentions.

  • yes, they even ran a story in the local newspaper in Hawaii days before the attacks telling everyone of the impending attack. They then moved 4 aircraft carriers out of pearl harbor and the Japanese basically destroyed old ships. We cut off their oil supply and knew they would be forced to do something drastic. consequently, the aircraft carriers were the same ones that won the war against japan at midway. which itself was a trap we set to defeat the Japanese navy.

  • Putting aside the message issue, for a country about to be at war, the US ignored several instances that should have been clear warning. These included radar contacts, visual confirmation of incoming enemy aircraft, and an attack by a midget submarine, which was captured. Appalling to think these contacts were ignored by higher ups in the command chain. That it would have taken too long to recall the crews and move the battleships, at least those available could have brought anti aircraft batteries on line.

  • …and now history is repeating again. The US is well aware that the Chinese been practizing hitting their nuclear super aircraft carriers with full size mock-ups on shooting ranges in the western Taklamakan Desert, a tactical move vital for their incomming invasion of Taiwan. They are practizing ways to sink them with full anti-ship ballistic missiles with hypersonic warheads that will reenter gliding the atmosphere at many times the speed of sound at very step angles of attack, basically undetectable and impossible to shot down. The question now is, are they gonna keep quiet until the first aircraft carrier is blown out of the water? They will try to find guilty parties and avoid the responsability? In 70 years there will be programs such as this one discussing that they knew all along, that the goverment knew of the Chinese war preparations but somehow the assestment and decision making coming out of this information and intelligence gathering was lost somewhere in the chain of command. 🙄

  • Read “Day of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor” by Robert B. Stinnett. At the time, the American people could have cared less if the Japanese took over all of Asia, and the Germans conquered Europe. The US had to get involved in WWII somehow, otherwise it would have ultimately been a “Man in the High Castle” situation.

  • In the 1990s I did weekend drills in Newport, RI. My Unit occasionally drilled at the Navy War College. On the wall in the entry to one of the smaller buildings was a letter stating that, with the exception of the Kamikaze attacks, all the battles with the Japanese had been wargames and there were no surprises.

  • The winds message was not the only clue. Data provided by SS Laureline. The log book disappeared regarding intercepted Japanese signals, but the receipt for the book remains. It is a fact British Naval intelligence along with the Royal Australian Naval intelligence was reading the Japanese JN25 long before Pearl Harbor. The Japanese fleet was observed putting to sea by intelligence officers of the Dutch East indies. All warnings given to the War Department and were ignored.

  • Not only did we know. The u.s. fired onto a Japanese submarine before pearl harbor started. The ships were radio silent and they weren’t to sure if they actually did hit something. It wasn’t until a few years back that they got the ships logs and location and found a Japanese sub hit the same spot they said they hit it

  • It was written about before hand in at least one book and it was predicted by General Billy Mitchell. A message would be stated 5 times on Television!? How would that have been possible at that time!? Also what about the submarine that was spotted just outside of the harbor and attacked by a U.S. Destroyer and the flight of Japanese Aircraft picked up on radar. A lot of mistakes where made and this sounds like another case of Murphys Law.

  • I don’t remember the source material (a book or a article) that Great Britain was also getting intercepts about the Japanese or had learned of the Pearl Attack coming with some detail. Allegedly, Churchill Himself had gotten the word to Woodrow Wilson who sat on the intelligence. The U.S, especially the people, were still keen on isolationism as a general policy, and fighting a war on two fronts would be costly in terms of lives and money. Wilson decided that the attack would solidify the backing of the American people to go to war against Japan and withheld the information sacrificing those men and ships. Again, I have no proof and can’t even recall the source material. This article states there was an investigation from our own naval Research Center with personnel retracting statements lending credence to a coverup that the information was available via one source or another or both. Some scholars were baffled at the number and types of ships that were present and those that were not present at Pearl harbor thinking the composition and reasons for being there did not make sense strategically. I don’t know. I am simply passing on information that I have culled over time but did not understand the importance of documenting sources for later use or that I might be putting the statements of theory in writing elsewhere.

  • It is well recorded that the Japanese of that era would always mount a preemptive strike to the closest and most target rich area. We can see this in china, Korea, Russia and Taiwan amongst others. This was no trick, we were asleep at the wheel. expecting an attack but were still not at full readiness for an attack. The Japanese attack on pearl was smart and if it was fully successful they would have had pacific dominance for a time, possibly a long time, maybe till today. But they screwed it up. Sometimes the best laid plans still miss the mark.

  • I saw an interview with a veteran of the RAAF quite a few years ago who said that his Australian aircrew were on patrol and identified the force of Japanese planes en route to Pearl Harbor. An urgent report was made, but ignored. Then there was a coverup, and the major historical accounts mention the Australian patrol in the area, but stated that they saw and reported nothing.

  • The Pearl Harbor attack by the concentrated carrier striking force of the IJN was made possible by the Mitsubishi Zero carrier fighter. It had the range to be able to cover invasions of the Philippines and Southeast Asia from land bases, freeing up the carriers to attack together. The Zero was also the first carrier fighter to be able to best its land-based opposition, making an attack on their target’s main base practical. The attack on the US Navy’s main base by all of the big attack carriers of the IJN could not have been foreseen by a US leadership which did not even know of the Zero’s existence. Nobody “let” it happen.

  • Reasonable suspicion should have led them to announce a security condition and post additional security watches at all installations instead they continued with a lax condition at the base with weapons and ammo secured and no watches posted. Even though the inbound aircraft were detected no attempt was made at alerting anyone about a possible problem and bringing the security condition up to a much higher level since they knew from intercepts that an attack should have been expected, they were complicit with directions given from the highest levels that the united states needed to be dragged into the war to help FDR’s friends

  • There was much more information about the coming attack. Reports from fishing vessels, ocean buoy beacons, lots of radio chatter from the public sector of the collection of the fleets, etc. The last I heard of a real investigation from a 3rd party was somewhere around 162 different red flags were found over the year or two before the attack happened. It is common knowledge the president antagonized Japan for far longer before that, trying to get into the war. For clarity: They didn’t know a clear day of attack but could of easily narrowed it down to a 2-3 week window and yes Hawaii.

  • Just because something is plausible doesn’t mean it’s probable. In 1941 there were only 17 Japanese “experts” in the entire US DOD, and virtually none in civilian government. Aircraft carrier ops were still highly experimental. Institutions and nations existed in comparative isolation, and sophisticated understanding of global economics was nonexistent. Ignorance simply led to bad decisions on all sides.

  • It is difficult in this day and age of cell phones, iPads, PCs and the internet how we did not know of the attack. Forgotten is the fact that a lot of diplomats great frowned on code breaking because gentlemen did not read other gentlemen’s mail. Another was the volume of messages, the complexity of the Japanese language and the relatively scarce availability of Human Resources meant a lot of message did not get broken or only parts were broken. FDR was a navy guy through and through. If he knew it was coming he would have warned them so they could have embarrassed the Japanese since our Air Force on the island greatly out number there carrier attack force. And we would still have the war everyone claims he wanted. No we didn’t know the date, time or place. The attack and war in general was a gross miscalculation on the part of the Japanese. They paid greatly for their mistake. The conspiracy theorist still believe in the boggy man and no one will change their views.

  • The Japanese Empire had two directions to go to get the resources they needed because of the embargo for their invasion of China; north and fight the Russians or south and fight the European colonies, with the possibility that the Americans would intervene; if they went south they would have to pass the Philippines. The US had a “War Plan Orange” in event that the Japanese went south. The Philippines would holdout until reinforcements was sent from the West coast via Hawaii. In the event of possible hostilities, the West Coast fleet would be moved from San Diego to Honolulu Hawaii as a Forward Operating Base (FOB) to support the Philippines. General William “Billy” Mitchell got court marshaled in 1925 for saying that the Japanese would attack Pearl Harbor on a weekend at 7:30 am after the fleet had been deployed to Hawaii to prevent the Philippines from being aided as they invaded and neutralize the Philippines to get the resources from the European colonies in the south.

  • I would just like to point out that all evidence possibly suggesting that the us knew the attack was going to happen isn’t exactly right. With war raging on both sides of the globe, and America stuck in between, it only makes sense to run practice scenarios even tho an attack on the us mainland was deemed highly unlikely. Similarly, school children practice fire evacuations frequently even tho the odds of an actual fire are super low. Just because we ran drills doesn’t necessarily mean we knew it was going to happen. Still as the war in the pacific began to grow, President FDR thanks to intelligence reports suspected that japan would indeed attack America, but that it was probably going to be the Philippines or perhaps Guam. This is why these two American territories were heavily fortified. And… they were partly right. Japan did, in fact attack the Philippines however they did so the day after their run on Pearl Harbor. The reason it was such a surprise was because all intelligence Washington received leading up to that fateful day suggesting an attack on the Philippines so America spent a lot fortifying the many islands and let their guard down at Pearl Harbor… although they almost found out. In a huge stroke of irony, on the night of December 6th, 1941 a coded message sent out by the Japanese admiral was intercepted and sent to D.C. to be encrypted. However it was late at night and the encoders were exhausted so they decided to leave it for the next day Dec. 7th. They did not realize that the encoded message contained the final battle plan for the attack on Pearl Harbor.

  • This is how you can KNOW that FDR and his administration didn’t have a clue the attack was coming. FDR had previously been the Assistant Secretary of the Navy. He understood the Navy very, very well and had an influence of what types of ships should and would be built for the future. Like every admiral of the day, FDR believed that the battleship was the powerhouse of the seas and that the battleship would decide the outcome of the war (especially with Japan). The aircraft carrier, however… was just a support ship, in his eyes. On the morning of the attack, the battleships were at anchor and every single carrier was at sea delivering planes to other bases. If FDR had any sort of inkling that the Japanese were going to attack Pearl Harbor, NO BATTLESHIP would have been left at anchor. They would have been out to sea, conducting drills, while the aircraft carriers would have been at anchor to serve as the sacraficial lambs for the attack.

  • All this is nice, but squadron of fighters to conduct each morning, assumes enemy launches shortly after dawn, half hour to assemble, one hour flight. Short complained he did not have enough pby’s to guarantee no possible attack, but he didn’t conduct reconnaissance with the one he had. Kimmel was going to sea on Monday to search for the Japanese fleet, so close

  • Very interesting but it is good to remember that USA had imposed on Japan a very hard oil embargo leaving them not much choices to solve this very serious problem as there was not much oil left. Already in 1940 the prevailing sentiment in Washington that given Japanese dependence on American oil, such an action was likely to be considered an extreme provocation. The fact is that USA knew that Japan would harshly react but what doesn’t make much sense is that USA didn’t know where Japan would attack but it is a ridiculous assumption because Japan only had two major objectives: Pearl Harbour, because of the battleships and the Philippines because of it’s strategic position, US troops and above all new B17 bombers. How strange the three carriers left the harbour for exercise that day and in the Philippines almost all the bombers and fighters were all parked together offering a big fat target….

  • The facts trace back to the stock market crash of 29′ But start as America needed to recoop it’s losses in the market Oil being a huge amount to lose Or profit from And at the time Japan had only become dependant on the use of oil in the last 50 years since 29′ And the American “perry expedition” ..And the amount of oddly lucky moments for America adds up that the government not only knew But wanted this way of entering the war to be very profitable…All Carriers not at pearl..with a upcoming non war christmas? The fact one was loading Midway island with fighters? The flight of B-17’s as return to Pearl on radar Over looked…Sunday morning? flight trainning? really? ..England And its common wealth drew a line at poland with Germany Which Hitler walked over And started WW2 And even at the shore of France America As someone said : “Its a European war Nothing to do with us”..However the USA had no issues selling goods to England for something that had nothing to do with them…Also for Nothing to due with war America put a embargo on Japan when Japan attacked China (Nothing to do with America right?) This embargo was in line with what they called the ABCD line …America Britian China Dutch line…….China had no real much needed crude oil However the Dutch East indies did And guess what companies owned the oil rights – China National Offshore Oil Corporation, Exxonmoble – Vangaurd group (American) Royal dutch Shell (now based in UK and just Shell)…..So there is your ABCD line America wasn’t there for China Before Or After .

  • Sorry, but the smoking gun is the testimony of Victor Cavendish-Bentinck, chair of Britain’s Joint Intelligence Committee-“We knew the Japanese had changed course. I presided over a meeting 12/5 and was given a report that a IJN fleet was sailing toward Hawaii.” He asked if we had informed our brothers across the sea, i.e. the USA, and it was confirmed they had. This was confirmed by former FBI Director Casey who said we had received word that the IJN Fleet was sailing for Hawaii… -Pearl Harbor Myth, George Victor

  • 7th December 1941, to Roosevelt ‘a day that will live in imfamy’, to Churchill, his first decent sleep since the war started. We in free Europe should thank Japan for waking the sleeping giant that is America. Without the USA Hitler would have won, what would that have been like, imagine a Nazi flag flying over Buckingham Palace, concentration camps by major cities, no freedom of speech etc.

  • Is the story that the Pearl Harbor attack was illegal due to the fack that Japan did not openly declare war with the US before the attack. That the Pentagon as well as the White House deciphered the codes with enough time to notify Pearl Harbor of the attack but didn’t do so while keepibg the Japanese ambassador’s party waiting untill the attack had already started thus preventing the Japanese delegation from formally declaring war just to anger the American people so they would support US involvement in the war?! What say you sir!?!

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