The consumption of orange juice has been linked to psychedelic trips, with some suggesting that consuming magic mushrooms or LSD with orange juice intensifies the experience. Some of the most potent magic mushroom species include Psilocybe azurescens, Pan Cyan (Blue Meanies), and Psilocybe cyanescens. These fungi are known for their mind-bending and mind-mending properties and have been cultivated and consumed for centuries.
Lemon tek is a method to make magic mushrooms more potent by soaking them in lemon or lime juice for 15 to 20 minutes before consumption. It is important to drink the entire juice/mushroom. The production, sale, and possession of magic mushrooms are illegal in Canada. However, there is increasing interest in the potential therapeutic uses of these mushrooms.
Magic mushrooms, also known as magic mushrooms, shrooms, or liberty caps, are a wild variety of mushrooms that have hallucinogenic effects when eaten. Fly agaric mushrooms are psychoactive, but they differ from traditional magic mushrooms. Preclinical reports suggest that the biological effects of psilocybin-containing mushroom extract or “full spectrum” (psychedelic) mushroom may be beneficial.
Magic mushrooms contain chemicals like psilocybin or psilocin, which cause hallucinations when consumed. The use of lemon tekking can increase the potency of magic mushrooms, but it is essential to consume the entire juice/mushroom.
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I did this on for my first trip. I tried capsules before and didn’t feel much and ate low dose chocolate. I did the lemon tek and did most likely about 3.5 grams and my friend and I did not do the straining part…Woweee it was Blast off Interstellar style. Soooooo INTENSE!! Meditated before and set intentions and put on instrumental music. Saw the Universe and a whole lot more.
I’ve done this method probably 30-40 times. Some additional tips from my experience(s): – When grinding try to make it a fine powder. The more granular it is the better the chemical reaction. I’ve tried both ways and prefer a fine, fine powder. You can also skip the straining. – 1/2 of a fist sized lemon is enough for 1g of powdered mushrooms. – Lemon concentrate works just as well and is easier than having fresh lemons on hand. – Don’t stir with a spoon. A metal chopstick is better. Something narrow that you can really stir with. – Rather than letting it sit for 20 minutes, try stirring it every five minutes. Agitating the mix will help the chemical reaction and in practice I prefer this. – When you drink the shot use concentrated lemon juice to wash the sides off and drink the remainder. Additionally I found it helpful to write down the time I drank the solution as a reference/reminder later in the trip.
I can’t emphasize how special these little wonders truly are. If you do it right, it can absolutely change your entire life for the better. It’s a shame we’ve been forbidden from this phenomenal natural medicine but it’s also neat to be part of this little club with you all too. We’re changing the zeitgeist of the virtues of humanity one journey at a time!!
My first time taking penis envy mushrooms and I really hope it pulls me out of my horrific depression. Taking care of my elderly mother with dementia for the last 4 years has taken its toll on my mental state of mind. I really just want to be the best son I know how. Praying that mushrooms help me with that. Thanks for the tips with lemon juice. I need every little break I can get since I have to travel 70 miles or 140 round trip to get mushrooms. That requires being away from my mother for a long time. I literally have to call someone to keep an eye on her because she could burn the house down or come up missing by walking out the front door. That’s how serious my situation is. Once again I give you my utmost Thanks and appreciation for your advice. God bless all!✌
I did a lemon tek my first time tripping and it was terrifying and amazing. I split an eighth with my friend by grinding the shrooms, soaking them in lemon juice, and putting the filtered lemon juice in home-brewed yerba maté tea (no shroom chunks consumed). The comeup started 8 minutes after downing the tea and it was like a rocket ship. I was convinced I accidentally gave myself the whole eighth. I experienced extreme anxiety for 20 minutes and this caused some mild nausea, but when the peak set in at the 40-minute mark it was a beautiful experience. Warpy vision, wavy headspace and body high, and just a great trip all in all. 11/10 would recommend lol. Just don’t freak out like I did because I just barely kept it together during the comeup. Everything will be fine in a few minutes, no matter how awful and disoriented you feel.
I wish I had seen this article before I ate my first shroom. I was given 2.5 grams and wanted to lemon tek it but did NOT have a coffee grinder so I downed the lemony chunky mushroom conconction. It was pretty nasty. Also the trip was so intense I blacked out and woke up naked. I’ll use less next time.
these comments are making me excited to go on my first trip, my shrooms arrive tomorrow. I ordered 6 grams, 2g calabensi, 2g Star Gazer, 1g Golden Teachers and 1g of Natal Super Strength. you can already tell where I’m from by the last type of shroom. Ill take the first dose in nature, super chill spot by a calm lake and green hills. Then second time round Ill try this method. hopefully i remember to comeback and leave a review, doubt anyone will read this but hey digital footprint yk lmao
I’ve done lemon tek many a time now, did it once with a mixture of a bunch of PE’s and some wacky landslide mushroom (that latter one turned out to be the strongest mushrooms I’ve ever tasted, easily 10x average 1g truly felt like 10gs of regular cubes). Lost touch with reality while standing outside staring at stars on a driveway for upwards of 5 hours. Thought the stars were communicating with my subconscious, realized I could feel air currents and they’re fractals connected to the flow of everythin. Also thought I saw a ufo but learned in my past through mushroom trips in Jamaica that if I think it’s a ufo it’s likely a plane. I will never forget the Norwegian guy that randomly chimed in when I thought I was seeing something in the sky and he just said “thats a plane playa” and absolutely killed the entire group with laughter … but back to lemon tek, that’s the most effective method for consuming, and to store your mushrooms almost indefinitely follow the old tradition of putting them in honey. You can grind up your mushrooms and then cover the powdered material in honey, this will keep them active longer and can be mixed into your lemon tek with ease!
Did this last night but didn’t weigh my baby blue mushrooms. Used about 5 mushrooms and ground them coursely with a whole lemon, I added water and stirred occasionally for about 30 minutes. I drank the concoction with iced tea and felt the effects start within 15 minutes. I saw my ceiling start to breathe and change shapes 😮
Lemon Teking has been my go-to for awhile now. You get more out of less, and the duration is just shorter by enough to make getting a decent night’s sleep afterward an actual possibility for me. The only times I don’t lemon tek now is if I want that big eight hour soul-search of a trip and I have plenty of caps to get me there. Also after straining I’ll usually do a couple more pulls off the plant matter just to be certain I got all that I could get. This might be overkill though but it stops that “what if I missed some?” thought in the back of your head.
So…as an atheist and anthropology student I did this with over an 8th of strong mushrooms, alone, in my first floor studio in downtown Sacramento. It was my first psychedelic experience…and right before the pandemic hit I now practice ritual magick and work in information technology. Also I’ve stopped chain vapeing like a mad man, like cold turkey never touched or craved my vape since.
I like the citric acid granules used in baking. Super easy and effective! The first time I used them was INTENSE! Definitely added to much, about 4 times to much in fact, it was almost unpalatable! The trip all be it only 2g of Colombians – was vivid! Saw rather intense visuals, which unless taking in excess of 3g don’t usually present themselves with this strain. It was relatively short lived in comparison to eating but a good experience nun the less. I quite enjoy drinking tea like this with 0.5g doses on a more regular basis, it’s a really pleasant experience, especially when perusal comedy!
Dude, did it last night for the first time. I’ve probably tripped over 120 times in my life. My friend got 1/2 ounce of Jedi Mind Fu-k. I read a whole article on Google that the name means nothing and the variety is very weak. These people don’t know what they’re talking about. Ground up two grams, let it sit in lemon juice for 25 minutes. Drank it all (mushroom matter and everything). 29 minutes later I was in it and it got strong as all hell. 3 hours and 26 minutes of what felt like i’d taken acid. Outstanding way to consume. I’m never going back to traditional eating. Sick visuals when you close your eyes and the body high was intense. Thank you for your articles. They’re very helpful.
Shrooms saved my life.. and I believe whole heartly they can save humanity’s downward spiral of repetitive chaos… I did the tek technique on empty stomach and it was the most intense, beautiful experience ever.. words cant describe it fully. The trip was far from short it lasted like 4hrs of intense stuff and 2 hrs of coming down. The come down was far from normal tho. My next meeting is overdue cant wait to find her again. <3
I’m Gonna do my first lemon tek with Blue Penis Envy tomorrow morning and I’m so excited. I’ve always taken my shrooms either by itself or on a pizza/burrito. I get nauseous everytime I take some. Which I hate experiencing, but I also love shrooms so I just stuck it out. I’m so happy to have found this method and I’m hopeful that I don’t get nauseous this time! I’ve taken Golden Teacher before and am so excited to be trying Penis Envy. I hear it’s a powerful trip and I need that and am glad to have acquired some. I’ll return tomorrow with a comment about how my trip went. 🎉
Last time I tripped I chopped 1.7g and added on fresh lemon juiced stirred with plastic utensil every 5 min for 15-20 min took like a shot(did not strain) added orange juice to glass to get remainder off sides. In aprx 10-15 it started to feel the effects. Side note I fasted for aprx 10hrs before hand and light snack 30min before hand so my stomach wouldn’t be upset. It lasted for aprx 3 hrs before afterglow effects.
I did this at a concert and it was a good experience. Normally I am in a whole other world 🌎 and my trips last really long I get a lot of visuals this technique was less harsh on my stomach, which I usually always have a problem with when I eat them dry on the come down however, I didn’t use a cheese cloth like you did I just grinded them up put them in a shot glass and soaked 🛁 them in lemon 🍋 and let them sit like you showed in the article and drink the whole shot with the🍄 included that were in the shot grinded ⬆️ it definitely hit harder faster, and I didn’t get as many visuals as I normally would but I really enjoyed the fact that it was shorter bc I was out in public and my stomach wasn’t as messed up afterward
Lowering the pH makes acid phosphatases in the mushroom tissues active*. This results in a conversion of psilocybin to psilocin which is the actual active compound in the mushrooms. This is something that would normally happen in the body but having it happen beforehand gives it a head start (thus, quicker effects). * The “acid” in “acid phosphatase” means that the optimum pH of the enzyme is low. In other contexts, you might see references to “alkalibe phosphatase” and those references would be to phosphatases with an optimum pH that is high.
Thank you. I have often wondered if “citric acid” is crucial or if vinegar would break down the chitin just as well. Lemon juice averages around 2.2 pH as where white vinegar averages 2.8 – 3.0 pH. If I could incorporate a mushroom/vinegar slurry into a salad dressing, I would sometimes much rather do that than lemon. I would personally find this, I’ll call it “salad tek”, far more palatable. I lemon tek every time I take a heroic dose (8g. – 12g.), which is around every 3 – 4 months or so, but I do not discard the solids. I also micro dose every 2 – 3 days but there is no need for lemon tek when micro dosing because it is a negligible amount (0.125 – 0.25g. depending on potency).
One time I did a lemon tek on 2gs of some Melmacs and holy bajesus it was an intense trip to say the least. At one point I was hallucinating so bad I couldn’t see nothing except for like a purple ish light and I felt like I was floating through the either for lack of a better term and well I felt as if I could fly forever and i tried to “fly” and ended up bolting right into my closet door. Crazy thing is I didn’t feel it at all it just felt like a force repeling me and then I fell on my bed and kept trippin balls 👍
My third trip, I put 5.5g pulverized shrooms in lemon tek and let it soak for 2-3 hours, never strained it in any way. I drank it all around 5-6 in the afternoon, and I had fasted since breakfast. After consumption it went downhill pretty fast. In about 30-45 minutes I was convinced I was in hell, I yelled until the neighbours called the cops. The security door hindered the cops from entering my appartment, but after about another 45 minutes of yelling while the cops rang the door bell, I finally opened the door though I by that point believed I had just overdosed and there was some sort of rescue-team outside the appartment, eager to help me. While the cops wrestled me to the ground, I decided to stop resisting as it was pointless (I was clearly not in control of anything), and to just try and meditate the pain away while my arms was twisted behind my back. While I just gave into the experience of pain, it was then I became one with the universe. The universe was however purely mathematical, like a big multidimensional fractal iterating through different levels of infinity like a hierarchy of nested for loops. For every every level of infinity I iterated through I got another realization about the universe, like I/it was getting to know itself and it’s purpose. It was like the multiverse is existence initself and our universe is just a tiny fraction of it. After crashlanding into my own body, I was in an ambulance, the decor was kind of dated so I first thought I had woken up in the 1980’s.
I did the lemon tekk tech in my first time trip. It was intense and i’m exciting to do again, but i will try with bigger dose (i drank 1.2G of dry mushrooms on concentrated lemonade /not the perder tech). The second time wasnt so good because i ate the mushrooms and got too nauseous and thats why i want to try this tech again!
I did it a few times, really worth giving it a try, I usually halve my dose when I lemon tek it and I don’t strain it, I just swallow the mushrooms. Good idea on the coffee grinder though, I use a regular weed grinder and this results in bigger pieces, hence the need to swallow them (at least i think) Most I did was 3g’s on a lemon tek
My first trip was everything I asked for and more than what I thought I would see. I did the lemon tek sorta…I soaked the actual mushroom without grinding it because i knew no better. I didn’t have nausea but the teip itself was intense. I was in the park with a friend and we saw a shiftshaper…I will leave it at that.
Four grams of Mazatapec tonight, three in lemon tek tea. The other gram was mixed with lemon tek with honey and drank it that way. Binge watched old Sherlock Homes movies tripping pretty good. My personally best is seven grams of Golden Teacher going this method and had no nausea. That was as good as any acid I did forty years ago.
Last night I ate what I presume to be about 3-4 grams of shrooms. I didn’t weight out the dose, just went for it. It was my second ever time taking them. It turned bad very very fast, I made myself puke so I could maybe get out some of the shrooms which did work. Time was passing slowly and my very existence felt agonising. I remember counting every minute wishing for it to end. Then I started talking to myself, every bad thing I am doing and how I need to better myself. That only distracted me a little so I turned to meditation. I have no idea why I thought of doing it. Never even meditated before, but I layed down and astrted focusing on my breathing. I ignored how my body felt uncomfortable, open eye visuals were too distressing to me so I closed my eyes. That saved everything. I felt at peace, in a trace. Just experiencing the shrooms as if I was not in the picture. I went from desperately trying to fall asleep from the discomfort to really enjoying the bigger dose. You really can’t prepare for stuff like this, shrooms really do surprise you.
every mushroom is made of chitin, which is the same protein that constitutes the shells of insects and crustaceans. the gastric discomfort with magic shrooms comes from the dephosphorylation of psilocybin into psilocyn happening in stomach juices. lemon does that before you eat the shrooms, but virtually any acid does the same.
I would recommend doing more of a double-extraction. Not a true method as this would be more for ethanol at 30% and water at 70% for a tincture. However, after you have your lemon isolated, use the remaining ground up booms in a tea cup with hot water and allow to sit for 20-30min. Sieve/filter the water and combine with the filtered lemon juice. Done.
I did this once 10 years ago and I didn’t look up any guides or anything. The internet was way different back then and I didnt really think about it. I probably saw the term “lemon tek” on erowid or something and only had a vague idea of how to do it. So I did everything correctly right up until the part where you’re supposed to strain it out. I chugged it. Mushroom gunk and all. Good times. We got it right the next time though!
Has anybody else experienced EXTREME itchiness after lemon tek??? I wonder if it’s like I’m experiencing what the mushrooms are feeling with the citrus breaking down the skin of the mushroom. It is extremely unpleasant and my skin is on fire right now!! I just made the connection realizing every time I do lemon tea I experience this. I usually do 5-14 grams. It is only noticeable at the end of the trip and gets progressively worse. A hot shower brings short lived relief. Can anybody offer some insight or share similar experiences?
Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated. The most magic mushrooms I’ve ever taken at once was 1.7 grams. I’ve had shrooms maybe 5 times over the past 2 years. This weekend I’m planning to to have an entire 8th of shrooms (3.5 grams). I’ve never used the lemon tek method. I’ve had a slightly upset stomach half the times I’ve had shrooms at the 1.7 gram level. This weekend when I have the 8th I’m planning to try the lemon tek method, just to avoid the upset stomach. Yeah the upset stomach has sucked, but It only lasts maybe 2 hours tops, and I just figured it was part of the process. With the 3.5 grams I have planned for this weekend, I’m a bit worried about how bad my upset stomach would be, so I’m thinking about using the lemon tek method. I’d still like to have the full 8th… but everyone is saying the lemon tek method makes the shrooms hit harder. So I’m a bit lost. I still have not had an ego separating trip, and at this point that’s the major goal. I’m also not too afraid to go the moon, but I’d like to have a trip where I go there, without having a trip where I go straight to Mars. Then again, is that takes place, then it takes place. Any suggestions on if I should avoid the lemon tek method and risk the upset stomach, or if I should use the lemon tek method, and just get next level high? I should also point out, I’m renting a cabin in the woods with my partner, who will also be taking the shrooms, and most likely she’s going to smoke some cannabis about 45 min into the shroom trip, because it usually helps her with her upset stomach.
I tried lemon tek for my first time and I have one warning for everyone who wants to try it… It tastes awful. I’d say it tastes 10x worse than regular shrooms, I couldn’t swallow it without almost throwing up. But my friend drank it really easily and said it tasted just fine to him. I don’t wanna push anyone away from this method of taking shrooms but for my first time it really disappointed me that I physically couldn’t swallow it
Sooooo…. I’ve not heard that Lemon Tek has anything to do with Chitin, but actually the dephosphorylation of Psilocybin, turning it to Psilocin ahead of consumption. I am curious as to any articles you may have speaking to veracity if my claim or your own (chitin) because I suspect that most people using Lemon Tek are also grinding their mushrooms to a powder for the first time as well, which definitely has all the same results as described: faster come on, quicker trip, more intense. I’d love to hear your comments on any/all of this.
Oh your process was different. Interesting! Will be trying it soon! Here’s a lil step by step I threw together for some of my friends… Steps to brewing Magic Tea Step 1: Boil water and let cool for 2-5 min Step 2: Add 1-2 shots of tap water to 250ml coffee cup Step 3: Add 1/4 Tea Spoon Citric Acid component (fresh squeezed Lemon / Orange juice / Granules) Step 4: (Optional) Add flavor profile of choice (Ginger / Mint / Honey / Rooibos tea etc) Step 5: Cut mushrooms up into pieces (half pea size bits) and add to cold water Step 6: Add boiled water Step 7 Let soak for 10 – 15 min while stirring occasionally Step 8 Serve and consume both the tea and remaining mushroom pieces TIPS • Use a tea strainer if you have. • Ensure water is not hotter than 70 deg C. • Consume remaining mushroom pieces. • Consume tea or mushrooms 2 hours after a light meal for best results. • Remaining mushroom pieces should be bruised with a dark blue / purple color as an indication that the process has been effective.
I take one mushroom, fresh. Maybe two. I’m 50 so I don’t need to be tripping balls. You don’t need to grind anything up. It makes no difference to the dosage, maybe reduces the wait time a bit. You can just swallow mushrooms straight, you don’t need to do anything to them, although lemon juice does help to extract and activate the psilocybin.
I do this but instead of eating the mushrooms 🤢🤮 after letting them set in the lemon juice for like a half stirring occasionally I boil some water and add tea and the lemon and mushrooms and let steep for about 20 minutes. I did shrooms before plenty of times but no bs when I first did this it literally changed my life. Never had such a intensely pleasant trip before. Was probably the best day of my life.
Imo I’m new to tripping I’m day 5 without using heroin or injecting I’m going into the new year clean and it’s thank the lord mushroom literally saved my life not only mine my family’s ect too back to the point the bits are best bit just drink the whole lot and thank me later! Merry Xmas all love peace and unity
Wait,,what is ‘step 5 ‘ and ‘ step 6’ ? I mean, I get that it’s a straining step, but yeah wondering if cheese cloth is needed / best or if perhaps a wire mesh strainer might work? And then, please- to consume, do you then (just ) drink the juice ? This all may seem obvious to some I suppose, but I am sincerely asking. Please help . Thank you
My buddy put me onto lemon teck, although he calls it Jizz teck. i dosed 1.3 of psilocybe azurescens we hand picked from the oregon coast, it was very pleasent and different than just eating them regularly. they come on so much more smooth, but i was seeing crazy geometric shapes unfolding when i closed my eyes
For my initial encounter with the Lemon Tek technique, I undertook the administration of psilocybin-containing mushrooms. My prior exposure to these substances allowed for a comparative perspective. In this instance, I employed 4 grams of dried mushroom material alongside the application of the Lemon Tek procedure, involving the extraction of citric acid from 2 limes. This mixture was allowed to steep for a duration of 20 minutes, with regular agitation every 5 minutes to facilitate the chemical interaction. Anticipating potential gastrointestinal discomfort due to the introduction of citric acid, I nevertheless proceeded with curiosity. Consumption of the entire prepared dosage took less than a minute, and the onset of psychoactive effects commenced remarkably swiftly, manifesting within a mere 10 to 15 minutes. Regrettably, the citric acid infusion did indeed provoke gastrointestinal distress, leading to emesis. Despite this uncomfortable initial phase, the ensuing psychedelic experience exhibited considerable potency. It is noteworthy, however, that this method may be unsuitable for individuals with heightened susceptibility to gastrointestinal disturbances. Post-emesis, the psychedelic journey was marked by a profoundly positive character, yet it is my preference to avoid the aforementioned emetic response in future endeavors.
Hey there I just ground up some shrooms and squeezed in my lemon juice but I don’t have a scale so I eye balled it and really hope I did ok and not too much but honestly I seen some guy say he took 7 grams and he’s ok so I believe I’ll be ok. I might need a heroic dose at this point in my life. I’ll do deep breathing exercises if I need to. 🫶🏼🦄
Taking 4 grams of Amazonian’s In about 1 hr. After finding this article I’ve been Lemon 🍋 tekking On ever Journey. It helps me so much with Nausea. Although I take all the Mush of shrooms I don’t strain But hay It’s something to try sometime. I have Lemon concentrate and I’ll let the Concoction sit with that and a little Hot water for 20-30mins then Down the Hatch. Wish me Luck 🍀 It’s almost that Time and The Mushrooms 🍄 are Calling My Name
I’ve been microdosing for about 6 months now and it has truly changed my life. Recently. However, my microdose which is tiny – .025, Yes, .025 g has been starting to hurt my stomach even though I’m even doing a faddamin protocol with it. It took me awhile to figure out every fourth day I get a stomach ache that lasts for 2 days . So I’m going to try this and see if that helps. Otherwise I may have to quit😢
Im not sure why people take so much at a time, so of the comments I read sound scary. I’ve done shrooms several times and am going to try lemon tekking today for the first time. Will be taking 1.33g fine ground shrooms. I like to use psychedelics for spiritual work/meditation so we’ll see how this goes! 🌻
the only way i consume shrooms now is lemon tek. i have a large granite mortar that i use to mix the lemon and shrooms. in 20 minutes of grinding. the shrooms and lemon are nothing more then a fine paste. mixing that with a fresh brewed green tea and there is nothing that would hint that any shrooms are in it. within 20-30 minutes, it hits you like a truck.3.5 hours after drinking, I’m coming back to this world. your results may vary lol. if you want to trip hard and don’t want to go away all night, this is the method for you.
I can strongly imagine the smell and it makes me gag. I can’t stand the smell of shrooms its so nasty. Ever since I’ve been doing the lemon technique, lemons have never tasted the same and so every time I cut lemons I can smell shrooms and instantly gag lol. But Lemon Tek will always be my go to. It takes away the anxiousness that if you somehow trigger a bad trip it won’t last. The trip duration is shorter (about half), the peak is much more intense as if you took 2-3x more shrooms, and it kicks in quite fast.
weight is just a gravitational measurement that our minds can comprehend, i say if you dont have a scale just judge with your heart and soul, the piece of you in the center of your chest that tells you when something bad is going to happen, a lot of people attribute that to gut feeling but for me its more of a heart feeling, thats how i always measured my doses when i was younger and i NEVER had a bad trip i didnt deserve, i can say though never mix a good trip with alcohol, it will spin it downwards quickly.
Gosh I don’t think I have ever weighed them, I mean we used to take pretty big doses, we would just go and pick a whole lot, chuck em in a pot and make really strong mushroom tea, this was way before we had heard of McKenna,and the recommendation of eight dried grams, in the eighties mainly, but yeah it could be very strong, that is the only time I actually thought I was dead.lol.
My first time doing this I got so fucked up I couldn’t function. I did a 8th and my body high was high af and my vision everything was like big legos everything stacking on each other. Now that I’m a vet, I can never reach this high again. Even though I do it every once in a while and it’s been over a month or so still can’t get that high. So weird.
wow! thanks for the info.Iv’e been using mushrooms since i was 16.Im 57 now,but the older i get,the harder i find it to get em down.i once ate 600 liberty caps in 5 min,no bother,and yet last night i ate 60g of fresh Equadorean but couldnt get the last 5g down once my gag reflex kicked in! will let you know how i fare.