What Is The Theory Of The Vast United Conspiracy?

What blood line is Hitler? The immortality that Genesis says was potentially within Nimrod’s grasp might have been the reason Hitler said that he would rule for 1000 Years. How would mankind react to having a young Hitler step forward to demonstrate the immortality you imagine might be achieved by science?

A man with implanted glowing blue eyes, a black suit with a white jacket underneath, a global schemer and manipulator with powerful connections. If I had a nickel for every time I saw such a character in article games, I’d have two nickels. Weird that both of those games are Action Shooter RPGs where your choices affect everything.

On the Killing Moon mission, you see Blue Eyes 3 times, not 2. The first time you see him was inside the airport where if you make your rounds to look for an entry point to bring Songbird in, there’s a guy named Mysterious Stranger perusal you with glowing blue eyes. If you haven’t found your way out to get Songbird in and make eye contact with him, he walks to the restroom. If you follow him, he stops right outside the one with the broken ceiling and then walks out – effectively leading you into the right area. There’s also another section during the funeral of Kurt Hansen when the others are gathering. A barghest soldier’s eyes flash blue and lingers for a few minutes before vanishing. Blue Eyes was present, observing it all before dipping out of the body which I assume it was a doll. If you also read No Coincidence, the cyberpunk book that just came out, he appears once again and you quickly learn what his goals are. Along with what Jefferson might actually be.

If you read the Cyberpunk lore books you’ll learn that there’s a digital equivalent of a physical distance between LDLs(Long Distance Link – How Netrunners quickly travel between locations like London to Tokyo), called Wilderspace. This is usually an empty space in between LDLs, like a desert or an ocean. They(netrunners) elude to a myth that something is lurking within Wilderspace, only choosing when it wants to link to the Net, by bypassing LDL and regional security. Some say Rogue AI, perhaps. Because in the net, you can disguise and make yourself look like anything you desire.

You missed something very important about Alt that makes the whole ‘Alt is Lilith’ thing make a lot more sense. The ‘Tenth circle of hell’ likely refers to the Ghost City of Hong Kong, which is a refuge for AI made out of the old internet infrastructure in what was left of Hong Kong after it got wiped out by a plague. Something else of note is that everything that’s crossed the Blackwall has been a human, which is why I suspect ‘human blood’ is needed in the Bloody Ritual. My suspicion is that there is some kind of flaw in the Blackwall which allows things connected to humanity to pass though, and the AI the ritual was meant to draw out was trying to create a bridge it could cross over through.

I feel having some supernatural elements in cyberpunk is really fun. As long as they are not stricly labeled as supernatural, but just seems like it through the player’s eye. It is a bonkers advanced world with secret technology beyond even all the game’s characters comprehension. It is a world where there are so many mysteries that are either seemingly impossible to solve or long forgotten. The Arthur Clarke quote that “any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic” fits so well within the setting. There for adding things like the net and the entities within being “discovered” are great additions, and making these entities seem supernatural adds a lot for me at least.

1) Nomads are werewolves is reference for biotecnika illegal experiments on nomads. 2) Lilith is Alt. She is the mother of cyberdemons (iskins) 3) I believe all the kaboki heist is Alts plan. She connected with voodoo boys as an Lilith . Nightcorp and kiroshi knows about alt and wanted to use her for something. Alt(lilith) probably will be free is cyberpunk 2 she got ount of mikoshi in majority of the endings

Every time I got ready to type out a “ahh, but there’s more…” comment, you covered what I was about to type, lol. Absolutely love that you made a article on one of my favorite rabbit holes in the game and did the diligent research neccessary to show how compelling this entirely missable conspiracy is. My man.

8:10 it reminds me of the conjuration insignia, as for the symbolism. It has open ended spikes on the up down left right with the conjuration tooth, can mean ” conjure the old” and the corners have arrows over the spike like houses so those could mean “in with our will” so it can mean ” through our sights, we conjure the old to be within our will.” Or “all seeing source, out with the old and in with our conjured will” and most likely blue eyes calling card because he has been perusal the entire event go down

This was a great watch! I think a lot of the Ritual/NightCorp/Blackwall bit can be addressed by acknowledging that Night City as well as the story (Oftentimes the background story in this case) moves forward whether V intervenes or not, that is to say, there’s a lot going on in the background that we can pick signs off, you can meet Panam talking with Nash in the Afterlife when you are going to see Dexter, for example, you can see cops recreating a cyberpsycho incident near Misty’s Esoterica and the cyberpsycho looks remarkably similar to Peter Horvath (As well as the Cyberpsycho that offs Pilar in Edgerunners) and the story moves forward. From there, we could deduce that the AI’s beyond the Blackwall are learning, even if they don’t acquire a physical form, they need “storage” on this side of the Blackwall, Maelstrom being so into the occult, mysticism, and cyberpsychosis, as well as having a heavy cyberware load by default, may have appeared as an ideal means to “carry” an AI from the Blackwall to this side, not taking in consideration the limitations/stress of the human brain, or maybe they did which is why they picked a female Maelstromer for the Ritual and, ultimately, it did not work. If we take that in consideration, Mr. Blue Eyes being a proxy is a theory that becomes easier to accept, whether it’s a high profile corpo with insane pull an influence, or his identity has been scrubbed by the AI’s themselves, what’s evident is that by his optics we can assume he’s perpetually engaged in a data transmission of sort (Optics during a call tend to be gold tinted, and a Doll usually has their optics in a pink/lilac hue as well, blue is usually the default color when accepting or issuing a transaction).

Awesome article mate ! Just to add on the Zaria rewritting your optics to hide herself on the go thing, before you actually go up to the bath and start her animation of her getting out the bath you can actually see her in the area but only a second before the screen has a flicker effect and she disappears. She actaully despawn from where you saw her and reappears at a different random spawn and if you catch her again the same thing happens until you start the encounter by going to the bath. Really cool once you know

Nice compilation. One thing that came in relation between Mr. Blue Eyes and Maelstrom. One speculation about Maelstrom is that they have a lot of cyberware but they don’t seem to suffer from cyberpsychosis as often as one might expect it to happen. In the cyberpunk 2077 book (The World of Cyberpunk 2077) it’s written they are fascinated by occult and otherworldly sensations. But I wonder whether they might be receiving some technologies from “the aliens” that allow them to stretch the limit of cyberpsychosis. I look forward to more conspiracies after project Orion gets released. (project orion is the project code of CDPR next cyberpunk game).

Thanks for putting this together. You always do such a good job of tying all the threads together. The supernatural aspect of the net and AI is something that you can find in some of William Gibson’s later cyberpunk writings. (It’s the inspiration for the Voodoo Boys in a lot of ways, with AI taking on the aspects of Haitian deities in Count Zero.) So, I wouldn’t put it past CDPR to incorporate it into Cyberpunk 2077. But, I’d like to take a moment and really give CDPR some congratulations. They did an amazing job on Cyberpunk 2077. It’s not often that a game comes out that has so much depth in it to generate this much conversation even over 3 years after its release.

This conspiracy rabbit hole has always been the most intriguing sub-plot in Cyberpunk for me (as I’m sure it is for many other people), so I’m glad you went out of your way to piece most of the relevant pieces and scenes together for us. I’ve tried my best to keep tabs on some of it myself but there’s a lot to keep track of that may or may not be connected. haha I’m not sure if we’ll ever get proper answers or not, but it’s certainly an interesting side-story that they threw in there for ‘flavour’ if nothing more ever comes of it.

I literally JUST finished my 3rd playthrough of this game, on version 2.12 UE. Thing is — halfway through I saw this article pop up on my feed one night and ignored it. When I ended up getting the Mr. B ending. My first thought was to search for this article in hopes to gain more insight about his backstory. Literally throughout all 3 of my playthroughs I had yet to see him til this ending. Didn’t even see him on the balcony when having that convo with the Jefferson, and me being ignorant to the shards and minuscule details didn’t help either. That really does bother me especially since I absolutely love the cyberpunk storyline and being hungry for more, but I’m in luck since your website exists for this very reason. 😅 Man I can’t wait to see what the 2nd game brings. 😭

Given that Songbird contacts V after the completion of “Killing Moon”, I’d say whatever Nightcorp did to her left a consciousness intact. Yes, it could be a simulation but why would Nightcorp bother? V could have been safely left in the dark none the wiser. The individual sending the message also needed access to Songbird’s memories to know where the message had been placed. While this could have been removed via hacking Songbird, again why would Nightcorp bother telling V? Instead, my guess is that Nightcorp Soulkilled Songbird and downloaded her engram either into a new body or into a proprietary private Net on the Moon. Whatever shade you want to throw on Nightcorp, they do seem to prefer a soft touch in their manipulation. They’d rather have Songbird’s loyalty than force her to comply. Thus granting her the ability to contact V one last time as a reward. Always use a carrot as well as the stick in your managerial duties.

Hey Sam, do you think you could do a article on a topic? Or at least, look into it? One thing that has never sat right with me is the contrived nature of 2077’s plot. The story structure sees you ousted from your old life into the arms of a merc whose personality traits and connections give you just enough resources to bounce back. And then, after just 6 months, you get handpicked for the biggest job in NC since the Arasaka Tower raid by a fixer who seemingly came out of retirement for no reason. There are shady connections all over the place, and Saburo just happens to show up on the night of the heist. Things happen, you get chipped with Johnny, and various circumstances see the right person with the right amount of desperation and the right skills, being in the perfect situation to deliver exactly what Alt needs to do what she has been trying to do for literal decades. Now, the real answer is probably just bad writing. But that’s no fun. My idea is that there is some kind of grand puppetmaster at play here. Too many things happen at just the right time, in just the right way, to exactly the right people for all of it to be coincidence. It smells like a conspiracy to me. Somebody is trying to bridge the Blackwall. And V, Jackie, Dex, Saburo, Netwatch, Alt, VDB, and even SoMi were all manipulated to make it happen. The final outcome based on the most logical, and thematically appropriate endings sees Alt penetrating Mikoshi, basically gaining an army of digitized psyches. Arasaka being heavily wounded, their entire leadership structure in complete ruins.

I feel like “the ancestor” has to refer to either Richard Night, maybe as a stand-in for all of Night Corp or Rache Bartmoss, who is the creator of daemons as a concept. Johnny outright says that a lot of malicious AI’s from beyond the Blackwall could potentially be responsible for the events in the Dream On quest. Maybe Mr Blue Eyes or Zarya (or both) have had their bodies taken over by AI’s using tech similar to Soulkiller. After all, Alt invented Soulkiller and is one of the AI’s beyond the Blackwall

One thing I am deeply curious about is whether there is a connection between Nightcorp and the seeming increase in cyberpsychosis. On one hand you have a group manipulating people at least partially through their chrome, including potentially giving implants to the man who attempted to kill Lucius Rhyne—on the other, you have a whole bunch of people, some of whom seem to have implants well beyond their means, spreading chaos in night city. Exactly how they might tie together I’m unsure. Some might be intended to kill a particular target—but there is also the possibility the whole thing is simply to cause chaos that will favour Night Corp’s ambitions (chaos potentially benefiting Peralez, as blame falls on the incumbent Rhyne and Holt) or they could be failed attempts to solve the limitations currently imposed by Chrome. Right now, you can make nearly unkillable super soldiers like Adam Smasher—but unless they, like Smasher, David Martinez or V are the kind of genetic freaks who can endure that level of implantation without being completely consumed by cyberpsychosis, they are all ticking time bombs. If your goal is at all tied to AI, you probably need to figure out ways to make people more resistant to the effects of extreme implantation. And the simple fact that cyberpsychos are another major mystery within the game makes me think at least some of them might be tied to the larger conspiracy, especially if we buy that they tried to use one to kill Rhyne in public

The inner part of the design, looks a bit like the “Star of Chaos” described in various fantasy media… except the thing to note is the cardinal arrow points have been removed. Instead they have… honestly, feels kinda like maybe the mandibles of an antlion? With the arrow becoming a mouth that devours?

In 2.12, I jumped over to where Blue Eyes is on that balcony during the “Dream On” quest after I was done talking to Jefferson. I waited there for a while after the quest was done and he disappeared in front of me. Very clearly not canon that he does this. He likely just has a timer for how long he exists and the devs didn’t expect you to look at him for that long right next to him. Still interesting, though.

One thing I always get stuck on when meeting Mr. Blue Eyes up close is how robotic his movements are. He moves like a robot with a good approximation of how people move but has yet to get down the finer details to avoid the uncanny valley. His back stays completely straight as if it can’t bend too much and while the way he crosses his leg is physically possible its not a comfortable way to do it for someone who is flesh.

I also believe this lilith figure maelstrom praises is Alt, when you first speak to her she sarcastically asks you do you think shes a demon that requires a blood sacrifice/contract. Sounds like she’s referring to the ritual, I wouldn’t be surprised if Alt plays different roles depending on the human and occasion. Remember, Alt admitted to not being Alt and only uses her form because V and Jonny wishes to see Alt. We don’t know who this AI truly is that we’ve been speaking to through the whole game😐.

The Nomad Experiments could be refering to the actual experiments Biotechnica is performing on Nomads (forgot the quest name, but you get to chuck a Corpo Bitch into a flying dumpster). He may just be getting two different Experiments of Biotechnica crossed here. (Experiments on Nomads and Experiments on Wolfmen)

29:00 Yes, yes, I can add more to it. I really hope you see this, Sam. There’s a piece you’ve (understandably) missed. Sandra Dorsett. Her name is a reference to Henry Dorsett Case, the main character of the legendary cyberpunk novel, Neuromancer. It’s an easy reference to miss, since even if you’ve read the book, he goes by just ‘Case’ and his full name is only mentioned once. But it doesn’t stop there. HEAVY spoilers for the book below. In the novel, Case is a hacker hired by a man named Armitage to complete a particularly difficult job. Case eventually discovers that Armitage is a former special forces operator whose personality was completely overwritten by a super-AI named Wintermute, in order to use him as a puppet/pawn. Wintermute’s goal to is to use Armitage, Case, and others to reunite it with its other half, the titular Neuromancer. The AI achieves its goal, claiming, as a result, to become…everything. The whole of cyberspace. It also tells Case, that it’s looking for others like itself, and in doing so, it has discovered transmissions from…Alpha Centauri. But it doesn’t quite stop there either. In Neuromancer’s sequel, Count Zero, some of the characters talk about how something they call ‘loa’ have emerged in cyberspace. ‘Loa’ being spirits from Haitian Vodou. It’s implied that these ‘loa’ are AI.

My latins a lil rusty. But “carpe noctus” wouldn’t mean “seize the night” It would mean “seize of the night” its a mistranslation. For the singulative word night it would be “carpe nox” Noctus is used as an discriptive, it means “of the night” not just “night” So the correct term if you used the word noctus would be “Carpe modus noctus” Or “seize the way of the night” Which in this particular situation. Night city and all, would lean more towards embodying an ideal, or learning from the teachings of another. Its more idealogical that aggressive. “Carpe Modus Plato” Would mean to seize the way of Plato or learn from Plato. Not “lets jump Plato”

In the conversation between the ritualistic maelstromers and the night corp agents, the maelstromers say that the wolf father has protected the realm of man and shadow (man and shadow both occupy the same realm?), but today it is protected by our children, children who’s name is patricide. Later in the conversation, ‘Carpe Noctem Lamia’ is said by the night corp agents. Lamia here, as per the article refers to a vampire or witch that sucks children’s blood. So perhaps Lilith or Zaria (Lamia) was a project to eliminate ‘the children of the father wolf and the mother moon’ who now protect the realm of man and shadow. Now then, who in the cyberpunk story do we know for a fact to have committed patricide? Yorinobu Arasaka. I’m tired of typing PS. I was high as hell when I came up with this correlation.

Does anyone else get mad G-man vibes from Half Life from Mr Blue Eyes? a sharply dressed man with dark hair and unnaturally blue eyes, speaking with a crisp voice and a strange intonation, who can be seen in the background of important scenes impassively observing, just out of reach. Massive G-man energy, maybe it’s an insparation?

The rings everyone points out have a different design from Jinguji at least they did before don’t know why they showed up as jg for you. They used to have those line that are on the f0b6 that look like pcb traces. I just went to check garys ring in my game cause of this and it’s still the weird pcb trace design on it are you using mods?

Remember: Cyberpunk 2077 is inspired by Cyberpunk 2020 which in turn drew on Gibson’s “Sprawl” and the William’s “Hardwired” trilogies for inspiration, and both of those series end up with contacting aliens. In the case of Sprawl, it specifically ends with contacting an AI from Alpha-Centauri (sorry for spoiler, but those books are, like, 40-years old now, so there you go…)

Regarding the phrases exchanged between Jane Doe and the Techno Necromancers: “whose name is Patricide” – patricide is mentioned one other time in the game. Takemura says Yorinobu must answer for the crime of Patricide. “in the age of his failure, he became lost in the forest” – after being killed by his son, Saburo only existed in Mikoshi. I don’t know how those snippets might fit with everything else they said, though. It could be coincidence, or a red herring.

My playthroughs always made me think that in some way I was sort of in the book “Neuromancer”. Like the AI “Alt” is being kept “mostly” out of the real world by the blackwall and is prevented from taking it over. And that all of our actions, from the beginning of the game to the end are her(the AIs) means of us eventually freeing it in the end of the game. Maybe she setup the meet with Jackie, made the relic, put johnny into it, planned on us jacking in, set up the Voodoo boys plan, and started killing us to motivate us, all in a move to push us toward freeing her from the blackwall in the end! meh, just a personal theory…

57:03 Not sure why you would think this guy is blue eyes. Thats your boss from the Corpo playthrough. When you start the game as a Corpo, your given a task that ultimately ends your career with Arasaka. Its given to you by that man here. Hes later killed for doing this, but this raises an interesting point. That guy might become Mr.Blue Eyes later on. maybe his soul is replaced with the Mr Blue eyes later but that guy right there is your boss at Arasaka.

I dont know if people have noticed this but when you take Songbird to NCX, just past Pepes receptionist girlfriend that area there…there are “suspicious travelers” that when you get close to them their eyes glow blue for a little bit as if signaling you to something and they wear a wierd blue glowing ear piece..there are a few of them all over that area..and if you wait long enough you’ll make contact. Blue eyes really was her contact..I thought I was tripping😮

In reference to Weldon Holt being a patsy for who killed Rhyne… when you storm red queens race, you grab the animal boss and ask about Holt and they say, “right person for the job,” whi ch is in reference to trashing the place it looks like. So it seems Holt was a patsy and not the one responsible for the murder.

There’s a name that jumped at me when you hack SSI’s black van, “Fred Ward”, probably just a coincidence since I don’t recall any other mentions of that name, but wouldn’t be something if it was connected to River somehow? River is known to getting too close to the truth and getting burned for it, it’d make sense!

“Rise and Shine, V. Rise and Shine. Not that I wish to imply you were sleeping on the gig, noone is more deserving of a cure than you. And all the effort of our work would be gone to waste if…well let’s just say you are needed once again. The right merc in the wrong place can make all the difference.” I think B-Man, I-Man and G-Man all share more than we know. Sides of the same coin, woven from the same rope. But then again I could just be a Garry, screaming about Aliens, godlike beings and interdimension travel…

Mr B could be Blackhand; Morgan was introduced to Militech by wiping out a small gang in a bar (he has no problem dropping those he needs to, like Michael Weston), and surviving a nuke could change anyone. Although a new idea. What if Morgan is now almost total Borg, and is using Mr B body as a proxy (assuming there ever was an identity tied to the body, and it itself isn’t a construct) And for the new Mayor; I’m actually against what is shown. If the conspiracy was anyway intelligent then knowing the subject was interfered with and is doing the opposite of the prods, then the answer is to apply opposing prods (basically reverse psychology)

You know, I never trusted Mr. Blue Eyes at the end of the game and had the assumption he was just another person holding V’s mortality over her head like a carrot on a stick, that her death was just going to be inevitable… but since Phantom Liberty’s ending its clear that there is at least one way to save her life. So that leaves me to wonder what method to save her MBE may have available to him. If its just what the NUSA uses or if its something sinister that leaves a backdoor to V’s psyche/physical body for whatever is going on there. Hell, maybe its all a hivemind and whatever is Lilith is puppeteering them all. If its been keeping track of V’s abilities it may want V at their command to use it as the need arises. Just a random thought!

I find it interesting that carpe noctem, even though spelled in lowercase, specifically capitalized Night when translated. Also crazy theory what if Mr.Blue Eyes is Richard Night himself or an ai of him and his controlling Mr. Blue Eyes from a distance thus the blue eyes. Alternatively what if ‘carpe noctem’ the Night they refer to isnt just Night City itself but rather to alter someones mind to the point of creating a copy of Richard Night’s psyche in the hopes he will help them guide Night City to what it was meant to be.

After returning to this article, and some further research, someone on reddit pointed out that the entire game is essentially the first act of Neuromancer. V or Songbird being in the position of Henry DORSETT Case, taking a job to infiltrate a space station flr a blue eyed individual who’s actually a puppet for powerful Rogue AI named Wintermute who’s using the body of an experienced soldier named William Corto under the Alias “Armitage” and cures Case with MAJOR strings attached in return. Connecting this to Cyberpunk, Armitage would be Blue Eyes, the proxy for whatever AI/group of AI, who are blackmailing/coercing V into the space station heist so they can become a hyper intelligence like the fused Delamain. Now, who would the proxy soldier body be in this scenario? Morgan Blackhand of course. A side note but the FF06B5 Mystery may actually be connected, as Wintermute in the realm of cyberspace is depicted as a cube of glowing white light that is incomprehensibly complex in design, ya know, like a giant floating glowing QR code?

i dont know why people say sending songbird to the moon is the best ending for her its like they never played cyberpunk at all its possibly the worst ending for songbird and all humanity even songbird herself felt the doubt to go to the moon at the end which is why she told V the truth that she is lying about the cure in hope V would just kill her or stop her from going to the moon

I think the fact that Lillith can easyly be parried to death by V at any level shows her lack of importance. Yeah, she might be part of Nightcorp”s project, but a mastermind? One that happens to just swing mantis blades at you while screaming?? I doubt it. Lillith migh be a result, but highly doubt she is a “planner”. To me it would be like thinking the bouncer in the Afterlife is the true boss of the Afterlife.

I’d like to add an interesting connection I haven’t seen anyone mention yet. In PL’s ‘Somewhat Damaged’ mission, while in the process of shutting down Cynosure Core’s subsystems, V can attempt to hack the (iirc) Cooling System terminal, and shut it down quickly. This provokes a direct response from the AI infesting Cynosure, who speaks to V through the terminal, saying (not verbatim, it’s been a while since I saw this) “You’re flying too close to the sun. Let us clip your wings. Deploying Leythe MK. 3 I.C.E.” and shocking V out of the terminal. This is eerily similar to MBE saying “Where I’m from they’d say it’s straight impossible. They’d say you’re taking too big a risk, flying towards the sun to burn up.”