Does Baral Function With Spells Including X?

Baral, Chief of Compliance, and Kari Zev are powerful Magic: The Gathering cards that allow players to bounce up to three target artifacts and/or creatures to their owner’s hand. When casting an X spell, players first choose the value for X (say 2), determine costs (only 1 due to Baral), and then pay costs. When casting a Kraken, Leviathan, Octopus, or Serpent spell from your hand, look at the top X cards of your library, where X is that spell’s mana value.

While the Spell is on the Stack, the (X) in the Mana Cost is whatever you announced it as. If you cast a Blaze with an X of 5, the Spell has a Mana Cost of (5R) and a Mana. Baral and Kari Zev will count any instant or sorcery spell you cast during a turn, even if it wasn’t on the battlefield at the time. A spell or ability counters a spell only if it specifically contains the word “counter” in its text.

Baral and Kari Zev will count any instant or sorcery spell you cast during a turn, even if it wasn’t on the battlefield at the time. If the Expertise spell you cast has any targets, and those targets become illegal before the spell resolves, the spell doesn’t resolve and none of its effects are affected. Baral is the king of counterspells, and rewards you by letting you draw and discard every time you counter a spell.

Baral and Sapphire Medallion apply to spells, not to cards in hand. The first step of casting a spell is to move it onto the Stack, and it is a powerful Magic: The Gathering card that allows a player to bounce up to three target artifacts and/or creatures to their owner’s hand.


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Can you play X spells with Lurrus?

It should be noted that the lurrus does not consider instant and sorcery cards in one’s starting deck, as they can possess any mana value. The card has no mana cost and can be cast with X as 1 or 2.

Do X spells count as CMC?

The financial outlay required to cast X spells is equivalent to that necessary to cast them for 0, exclusive of supplementary expenses. The cost of a Hydroid Krasis for 0 is GB.

Is x part of the CMC?
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Is x part of the CMC?

The variable mana symbol X is the only way an object’s mana value can change. An X in a card’s mana cost is counted as 0 towards its mana value, except when that card is being cast. While on the stack, X takes the value of whatever value you chose when casting the card. For example, Confront the Past has a mana value of 1, but if cast for X=4, it will have a value of 5 (4+1). Exponential Growth has a mana value of 2, but if cast for X=2, it will have a value of 6 (2+2+1+1).

Crackle with Power has a mana value of 2, but if cast for X=3, it will have a value of 11 (3+3+3+1+1). Popular cards like Chalice of the Void and Stonecoil Serpent use X in their mana costs, but they still consider X to be 0 when on the battlefield.

Does flashback work with X spells?

In the event that a card with flashback is placed in one’s graveyard during one’s turn, it is possible to cast the card if it is legal before any other player can do so. However, the value of X must still be chosen as part of casting the spell, and the associated cost must be paid.

Can you cast an X spell with bolas Citadel?

In the context of MTG, spells cast with Bolas’s Citadel are subject to a set of constraints. Firstly, they must have a mana cost of X. Secondly, a universal rule dictates that when cast without paying its mana cost, the value of X must be 0.

Does Vial Smasher work with X spells?

Vial Smasher focuses on a card’s converted mana cost, not the cost spent to cast it. For example, Ancient Stone Idol’s CMC remains constant even if cast at a reduced cost. Two cases where a card’s converted mana cost changes are spells with X in their cost, such as Fireball, which has a cost of 1 in any zone other than the stack, and split cards, which have a cost equal to the total cost of both cards anywhere other than the stack. For example, Profit/Loss has a cost of 5 normally, but can be reduced to 2 if only Casting Profit, 3 if only Casting Loss, or 5 if Casting both fused together.

Why is Lurrus banned?

As time progresses, cards such as Lurus will inevitably become overpowered, thereby conferring naturally occurring rewards.

Is Lurrus still banned in vintage?

The DCI announces bans and restrictions of cards for their sanctioned formats, usually on Mondays and taking effect within a few days. These announcements used to be made in a scheduled manner, usually two to three months, with coherence of Standard legal sets and major tournaments like the Pro Tour. The following list shows the announcements and their changes in chronological order, with formats not mentioned seeing no changes in their respective announcements.

Can bolas citadel play lands?

A spell may be cast from the top of the library, with the cost being the life value, rather than the mana value. In the event of the sacrifice of ten nonland permanents, each opponent shall suffer a loss of ten life points.

What if you copy an X spell?

A spell that has been copied retains its original X value, which is determined at the time of casting. Furthermore, the additional costs associated with the copied spell cannot be modified.

Do X spells get copied?
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Do X spells get copied?

A copy of a spell or ability copies its characteristics, decisions made for it, modes, targets, X value, and additional costs. This effect is often used to target creatures and is known as “cloning”. It was introduced in Alpha, on cards Clone and Vesuvan Doppelganger. The exact result of a copy effect is often confusing, as it ignores temporary changes to the object and only creates the printed qualities of the original, known as “copiable values”. Choices made on resolution are not copied.


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  • The Baral council deems this article in acordance with our laws and has given it a like. The Baral council also allows you this knowledge: True chads only care about the countermagic to loot through their deck, and play Baral as a spellslinger deck focusing on the discount over the countermagic sentences.

  • I was in a 1v1 “choose your opponent” type setting once and somebody playing baral showed up. He set up his whole placement with like his dice laid out, a Tupperware of snacks next to him, his Baral sitting there blatantly in plain view with the ugliest “smug” you can imagine right? Like “y’all are gonna come to me to lose” shit eating grin. Not a single person sat in front of him all night. It was glorious. I’m not saying you can’t play what you want to play, but if you show up like THAT, ain’t nobody is gonna acknowledge you lmao

  • I very vividly remember when this card came out because I stopped playing Magic for a while not long after it came out due to a bad breakup, so even though it’s been 6-7 years, it’s still very fresh in my memory. Never played against it yet myself, but I dread the day. Please do Valki, God of Lies/Tibalt, Cosmic Impostor. He’s my favorite Commander, and actually the card that got me back into Magic. This is my 5th time asking, it would be cool and funny to see you roast him.

  • I agree about Baral in the command zone, but I actually really like Baral in the 100. Treat him as a second Goblin Electromancer with his spell discount in a spellslinger deck (I play Niv-Mizzet Parun, Bolas, and Hinata). Also, because so many people have been traumatized by Baral decks, he’s a kill-on-sight target that draws removal that I would rather hit him than my commander.

  • I would like to petition for the next one to be Rhonas, the Indominable. How does green play control.? Normally it doesnt! But if it did, it would start by killing ALL your creatures just by punching them. And whoops you let him get too much mana, now hes spamming Eldrazi, just to destroy more of your things with the ‘on cast’ trigger.

  • I have him in my Niv deck, mainly just because it’s basically just a second goblin electromancer lol. I dont even run that many counters either. I basically just use a crap ton of cantrips to fuel stuff like locust god, murmuring mystic, young pyromancer, sky summoner and guttersnipe. Having the cheaper costs on said cantrips really enables a lot with them (especially when considering thousand year storm)

  • Genuinely, my main gripe with Blue is not that the counter spells are there, it’s that it’s the only color that is allowed to play on that axis unrestricted. The best any other color has is conditional counters that only see play in combos or hard reads, and soft counters that are only okay. No other color has this kind of stranglehold on something considered so core to the game. Not every color needs them, fine, green shouldn’t be playing with counter magic anyway, but give non blue decks something.

  • Maybe I have a different viewpoint because I’m old school, but Baral belongs in the 99 of a more interesting Commander. He’s frustrating to the point you will instant speed become the target in multiplayer and in 1v1 he’s just plain unfun. As the saying goes, “there are only so many counterpells in your hand.” Also, would adore a roast for my favorite commander Trayzn the Infinite

  • What about Nymris? I jumped ship from Baral to Nymris after commander legends because IT MAKES YOUR COUNTERSPELLS CARD ADVANTAGE! Every counterspell is a mini impulse! And its a 1/6 with flying so nothing is getting past him! AND HE HIMSELF HAS FLASH SO NO ONE GETS TO KNOW IF YOU’RE CASTING HIM THIS TURN OR WAITING TO FLICK THEM IN THE EYEBALL.

  • So, Baral is my Bad Manners Deck. When I’m tired of getting spanked by dumb shit on arena, I’ll load in with No Fun McGee and get my fifteen wins. Will they be earned wins? No, but we aren’t here for those anyway. We’re here because our deck hates us so we’ll draw every single card and then still probably lose to some shit that can’t be countered because WotC has a favorite child and it is Green

  • Only reason I made a baral deck was because some tryhard brought Tymna/Thrasios to a commander pod and won like turn 4 with thoracle. Ever since then my villain arc came and I only bust out this deck if I see someone playing 5c or any cedh commander even if they say its “not cedh” sorry you don’t get to have fun

  • The only acceptable way to play Baral is if your game-plan is getting out Guile and Lullmage Mentor, which means that every time you counter a spell, it gets exiled, and you can play it any time you like, plus you get to create a merfolk token. At least then, your losing to your own giant stompy creatures beating the shit out of you alongside an army of mermaids, rather than some boring infinite combo.

  • I was playing against two counter spells decks (the 3rd opponent died) with a landfall deck and my commander had been removed 3 times bringing it to a cost of 12 and so I refused to play it until I destroyed all of their lands. Once they could no longer play the game I then proceeded to play my commander good day to them

  • This is one of my preferred commanders into CEDH. I play control, stax, mass land destruction and stuff like that into CEDH. Sometimes I run a very fast combo deck. Where I’m expecting my opponents and me to try to win between turn 0-4 with 12spells on the stack… Often scoring a 25% win rate… Baraal is a good stall out commander. Our longest game was baraal, flash hulk, Lavina, naset wheels It was 4.5hours… with surprisingly very close game winning moves by everyone playing… Im pretty sure we lost to wheels due to not having a flusterstorm. But we also have had nights of playing 7matches in an hour cause everyone was winning on turn 1-3 And I play group hug/slug, political decks and off color jank otherwise… Or even just good value fun decks. Or a modification of a precon. kinda just depends who’s playing… And what they’re playing. Play responsibly and try to match the power of the table. Don’t be the jerk to bring baraal to a precon table… And don’t be a fool and bring your percon to a baraal table.

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