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📹 After Life – Ricky Gervais “If death is just the end, what’s the point?” Scene
If you were atheist… I am. …and don’t believe in an afterlife… I don’t. If you don’t believe in heaven and hell and all that, why don’t …
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Seeing this comment section full of people getting mad about him “winning an argument he made up in the shower” or “making atheists look smart and theists look dumb” makes me confused. Neither of those things were the point of this scene at all. The scene was about only living once and spending your time as best you can. About appreciating every little thing about life because you won’t be able to forever. I don’t see how these characters simply having a discussion about life could be taken as an insult to anyone.
Yep, this is why I’m agnostic. Religion is kinda irrelevant to me. There’s plenty of reasons to do good and avoid bad that have nothing to do with religion. But I’m not against religious ppl since any day it could turn out that they were right, or any day we might learn that atheists were right. It doesn’t matter much to me though. Believe in whatever you want to believe in, it’s probably just another name for humanity anyway.
(If it matters) Coming from a catholic, Ricky could not be more right. In the end, hundreds of thousands of years from now, no ones gonna care what you believed, who you believed, what your daily routine was or what you did for a living. Life is precious. Live it to the fullest extent because no matter what we all die and only you can decide how you live it.
Ahhh how he’s got a point. As a religious man, cherishing the years we have here is very important, even if and when we go to the other side, everything we do here counts. Because we never will come back here, and one day we’ll be somewhere else. Cherish those you have here and you love, one day, they wont be here, and the day’s without them will seem like centuries. God bless you all lads and lasses
I believe in God and Heaven/Hell, but I love Ricky’s line. And I’d like to add to it from the other side. If you’re perusal a movie, and you know there’s a sequel to it that you know will be incredible, should you cut the first movie off early to get to the sequel faster? Or should you enjoy the first one as much as possible, knowing you’ll never be able to watch it again once you get to the sequel?
About two years back after I got off of work one night, I went to fill up my gas tank at an arco down the street from my house. As I was filling up my car, a young blonde lady probably in her early thirties asked if I had some spare change to help get her out of town. I looked over at her truck and saw it was filled with random things she probably took out of her house as if she was moving out. I told her after I finished filling my car up I’d fill her truck up no problem. She said thank you and we got to talking about her life and this guy she was with and how he mistreated her and she was trying to get away from him and this and that and we ended up having a real heart-to-heart conversation about life and such. She asked me if I was religious and I told her that I wasn’t and she asked if I believed in heaven and hell and all of that and I told her I didn’t. I told her that without the idea of heaven or hell being real places we go when we die, it’s really helped motivate me to be a better person for the people around me and the people I hold close and dear to my heart. It’s really changed my outlook on life and made me realize there are no redos and we don’t get any other chances – this is all there is so we need to make the most out of it. That’s why I don’t ever take anything to granted anymore and I really try and make every day count and let the people in my life know that I love them very much because any time I see them could be my last. She said I was really kind and she appreciated what I did for her.
I’d argue that someone who doesn’t think this world truly matters, or that if they just feel bad every once in a while about being a shitbag then theyre forgiven by the only one who does matter, they are intrinsically a much more dangerous person because of their perceived ez forgiveness pass. Its like someone saying “its easier to ask for forgiveness than permission”
Atheist, or spiritual person, I think we can all benefit from viewing the “meaning of life” as LIFE itself rather than some ulterior purpose that has no substance of itself. If you are on the side of LIFE as an atheist I have no qualms against you. It’s the nihilists, those who deny life of its meaning in any form, that I can’t quite understand. Even then we are each on our own journey through this endless journey of LIFE and if being nihilist or an atheist is the game you want to play then go and live it, and learn the lessons that THIS life has to teach you.
1. Moral and social values don’t necessarily come from an omnipotent being. If it were, don’t let the Buddhists hear about it 2. That woman’s statement on the point of life, of “skipping” to death is simultaneously disingenuous and yet sensible. Disingenuous because she came in haughty and superior one minute, and then suggesting suicide in the other. Sensible, because that is probably the only way she can think of trying to draw Ricky to God, through fear and intimidation. 3. I would have twisted her question on rape and murder like this: Since you believe in Heaven, presumably believe your sins are forgiven by God at the end, and therefore you’re all set for your reward after this life, why aren’t YOU going around raping, murdering and then commit suicide? And since I don’t believe in any of that, why would you suggest I should “skip” this life for a “better one” I myself don’t believe or think exists? 4) Can’t stress this enough, suicide is NOT a laughing matter. There is a time and place where fear and intimidation could work to prevent one from thinking of committing suicide. That time was when you aren’t past grade school. I don’t know if this woman tried to “scare” Ricky away from suicide by reverse psychology (and thus scare him to God) or she genuinely is that ill-willed. Either way, when you are in that position of despair and contemplating suicide, rational thoughts don’t quite register. Scare tactics don’t work on a person with nothing left to live for, and think death is the best solution, regardless if they think there is a life after this one.
I’m really terrified of time. I’m not scared of pain because I know in time it will not hurt. As a kid in school I didn’t mind boring classes because I knew “I was already home”, time goes so quickly that soon I’ll be home anyway, I’m moving in time and I’m here now, but I’m already at home. And then I got really scared because I realized I’m already dead as well. Blink and I’m an old person. And that has been a personal panic attack for me. But I then realized it’s only true if you don’t care about the time, if you do nothing. If you use the boring lecture to do something memorable, like come up with a good story idea, then it’s less about “well I’m leaving this point in time soon anyway, this moment doesn’t matter”, you’re taking the moment with you. Spend life with meaning and I think it’ll enrich your life. Then it’s less about “blink and you’re old” and more about being old AND having a ton of incredible memories. You move in time, and you change. But you need to make that change yourself. Still scared of death tho.
“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.” ― Marcus Aurelius
I heard this monologue outside the context of this show, and thus, outside the context of atheism vs. religion, so I’m shocked at the comments because nothing he says feels like it goes against any of my beliefs tbh. I guess being so deeply embroiled in the culture war really gives some people tunnel vision.
“Does man(kind) think that he will be left alone; unquestioned? Was he not (just) an emitted drop of semen? Then he was a clinging clot, and (God ) created (his form), fashioned, and proportioned (him). And made of him two mates, the male and the female. Is that Creator not Able to give back life to the dead? ” (Quran 75:36-40)
I’m something of a agnostic, And while its true i’m not religious, I’m not so quick to dismiss the supernatural, In part because i’ve had a few brushes with it over the years, oh can’t say for sure there went logical explanation behind it But at the sometime there might no have been either, So i tend to keep something of an open mind,
My answer would be: You’re right. This is the best your life is gonna get. You will have to make the best of it. After all, after you die you will spend an eternity in hell, no chance of happiness, peace, joy or without pain. It’s a meaningless chase of the wind…. Trust in Jesus and you won’t need this nonsense of grief with your own futility. There is life after death and this life is worth living. You are loved. God can strengthen your feeble arms and weak knees.
Life is precious because you only get to live once… just to be clear, I’m also a atheist but this is a stupid statement. Just because you may have a satisfying life doesn’t mean the same goes for everyone else. What, you think someone who had a shitty life from day 1 would treasure their time here? Ridiculous. It’s only natural that someone who gets the short end of the stick would dream of something better in the after-life. It’s their way of coping with how unfair the world was to them.
Two way street, some could be living with depression or had a bad deal in life based on where they were born and what family they were brought up in. Someone can be living high and dry in a rich family or be poor and starving or have abusive parents, physical or mental illness etc etc. Life can be great, but it can also be hell for some and as bad as it may sound, I can understand why some opt for suicide. Sure you’ll be dead, but any pain you had is gone.
Says the character who is obsessed with killing himself. If he misses his wife so much and doesn’t believe she exists anymore, what’s the point in wanting to die? He won’t be with her. Like he says, appreciate the few short years you have on this earth with passion, because it will be over before we all know it. Hope he really listens to his own advice in series 3. Wonderful show.
No more suffering, no need to worry about anything, no more possbility of pain only if theres such thing as hell, no need to pay bills, no need to do anything in order to live, no need to obay stupid unvierse rules such as gravity, no need for food and temperture and air. So much and you only give out little bit of positive little things that make you happy temporarily
I’m not a theist, but Gervais’ analogy isn’t a very good one. If while perusal the movie you become convinced you won’t remember anything about it, then that would be a better analogy. Similarly, “You only have a finite amount of time, so don’t waste it”, that sort of argument doesn’t work either. What, am I going to regret wasting my life after I die? Not without an afterlife I won’t 😉 As to the question, the point is simply to enjoy your life. Allowing others to do the same is the most reliable way to ensure you yourself can continue enjoying your life (i.e., you won’t be thrown in prison or killed in retaliation for harming someone else).
Another reason to live is to reduce the suffering of others! Because yes, there are people (theists and atheists alike) who will murder, rape, etc. etc. etc…and many people are left in great pain from these awful acts. So help them if you can because you won’t be able to if you commit suicide. You’ll very likely just make things worse if you do that! Because not everyone can always be happy. But we can all be there for each other and not be so alone. That’s worth living for.
Well, there are people who want to kill themselves, and there is no problem. It doesn’t make much difference to the universe what we do with our lives. we are insignificant. In the end it is a matter of choice. I don’t kill myself because I still have a lot of books I want to read, a lot of movies I want to see, dishes I have to clean. I wish for death, but it’s not because my life is bad. on the contrary. it is very good, but meaningless and superficial. I don’t know why people are so shocked by death. It must have something to do with the ego and how we pretend to be important. But I prefer to be insignificant. And between living crawling time, without having fun, and dying, I will choose the last option. But if I have pleasure involved, I will postpone the suicide attempt until I forget and die naturally.
The guy makes a very good point, however, I do see a few things wrong with this argument. It’s easy for a person to say “cherish life, and value it because you only live once” but the problem is that only a person who actually has something to cherish about life can relate with that. Think of people who are born in war zones in parts of Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan and people born in poverty stricken parts of the world. They are playing a game of survival, there is not much to actually “cherish”. It’s like perusal a shitty movie, I’d rather turn it off halfway than actually finish it. This is the mindset of suicidal People, which is very much valid from an atheistic standpoint. People that make this argument make it because they actually have something to “cherish”, however, that isn’t the case for others.
The question was half good ! Instead of saying why would u not do bad stuff ! The real question is DO U BELIEVE THAT THOSE PEOPLE WHO DO BAD STUFD AND GET AWAY WITH IT IN THIS WORLD ! How will they get their punishment if there is no afterlife and those who suffered how will they get justice if there is just this world and no judgement day ! There has to be a Justice in the end if God exists ! And if so then that justice is in afterlife where EVERY SINGLE CRIME OF A PERSON WILL BE PUNISHED even if he gets away in this world !! That’s what logic demands and exactly what truth is ! Now atheists will not believe it coz THERE IS NO PROOF OR PHYSICAL EVIDENCE OF HELL AND HEAVEN ! But there are signs ! And it’s upto a person to either accept it or say nah I don’t agree …. it’s upto u but I believe There is One God and he sees all and even if u hire the most expensive lawyers, or am a mafia boss who can’t be touched, no matter how powerful u are in this world and get away with any bad stuff God will give justice to all in afterlife ! NOW QUESTION IS WHY GOD DOES NOT STOP PEOPLE HERE IN THIS WORLD ! Well the reason is this world is a test and HE has given humans FREE WILL ! So He is seeing everything but it’s upto u to fill ur own mark sheet ! So when in the end of the world u get ur reward or punishment u won’t be able to object to anything coz U DID IT ALL URSELF !! The Good the bad all is ur own actions ! And If u really Think God should have made something that can NEVER do anything bad, only good .
And since when has Religion prevented people from acting horribly? I mean, forgive me for being blunt here, but I live in a country boasting the largest catholic community in the world. A country where roughly 92% of its population subscribe to a religion at some level. It is also among the 40 most violent countries in the world. A ranking that include actual warzones.
A lot of people miss the point of this common topic. The point is that morals have a subconscious religious motivation even for so called “atheists”. They just dont understand it. She was right that logically there is no reason not to harm others for your own well being if you won’t get caught(it happens all the time btw) but most people don’t do it because they have conscience like he said. BUT they never stop and think what that actually is. Conscience is the deep rooted fear that if you do something bad, that you will be judged for it by SOMETHING. That thought is ingrained in our minds because thats how we think it SHOULD BE. If we are not judged what is the point of anything? You could say “yeah I am judging myself” but it doesnt explain why you feel bad about it or why you feel like you SHOULD feel bad about it. He kinda indirectly points to the fact that life derives its meaning from you trying to live it in the best way possible and you imposing certain rules on yourself. If you disregard them it feels almost like you would lose your meaning of life. Judgement gives our life meaning. Breaking your morals that for basically equals to losing your life. This is a lot closer to bible teachings than he realizes. Morals(the word of god) in the example of the bible are personified by Jesus. Doing that is basically the definition of believing in Jesus (thats something a lot of christians don’t get either). If you reject them you lose your (eternal) life. This theme of “rightousness = life” and “sin = death” goes back even to the old testament were the afterlife wasnt explicitly refered to but only hinted at.
That comparison with life being like a movie isn’t a good one. I’ve heard the same argument being made saying life is like a cake, you’re not going to eat it just because you know it will be gone? From my perspective it is more like this: You’re on death row and a cake is your last meal. Would you eat it? Most people wouldn’t have an appetite.
Wow Ricky, you won a shower argument and turned it into a script. It’s easy to watch arguments fall like dominoes when you’re the one who lined them up. Why waste time deconstructing the worst arguments for something made by amateurs? Its better to be honest and tackle the best cases put forward by experts in the field. This applies to everything. It’s a challenge but far more productive.
I’m an atheist and I’ve always tried to explain that I’m FUNDAMENTALLY a better person than most theists, because when I give to charity, when I help others, etc it’s because I WANT TO, and because of MY OWN GOOD INTENTIONS, and not because I’ll get +10 God points. I have morals, a conscience. I do things because it’s right, not because of some promised heaven
Maybe it’s the effect of the Trump/Brexit era’s distortion of truth and the base parameters of reality that allows for a writer of content as mawkish and ill-concieved as Afterlife to be considered a 21st century philosopher, or maybe it’s simply that viewers of content this mawkish and ill-concieved would likewise be predisposed to hold such a notion.
So lets say based on what Ricky says here that its a bad movie… This argument is a house of cards. Life has no objective meaning in atheism. However in theism we aren’t left to flimsy arguments to prove our points but reasonable arguments(cue atheist replies lol). Life has objective meaning, and before you read the arguments of screeching atheists below consider God can be known and through Christ it can be done
I don’t fear death. I came to terms with that a long time ago… I go through life every single day with the clear certainty that one day I’ll die, one day I’ll descend into nothingness, with no return, no second chance… Sure, some days I face this fact with resentment and apathy, but most of the time with an easy-going, humorous “no fucks given” attitude. What else am I supposed to do after all?! Hide and repress this part of reality out of fear and panic? Become religious and convince myself that there is a God, a purpose, an afterlife? This is the approach of the cowards and the weak! To face it with fear and panic all your life, day after day, is just as weak and pathetic! Fear and worry make sense of things I can change or prevent, things I can avoid, things I can escape from, which isn’t the case with death! So why worry? You can’t change it! It is not without reason, that it is said “I don’t have to do anything but die!” But it’s not a disaster! Ask yourself this: How does death make life less worth living? How is death preventing me from having fun in life?! How is my mortality preventing me from using the time I have the way I want? Getting the maximum out of my life! To love, hate, brood, celebrate, etc.! Your mortality only ruins your life if you let it! Accept your mortality, accept what you are, make the most of your time! Make your peace with it, everything else is a pure waste of time!!! And just for the record, I used to think the same: let’s be clear, mortality is a double-edged sword: it can motivate you to appreciate things while they last, precisely because they don’t last forever.
I would probably scream in despair if I discovered that life just goes on and on forever and ever, round and round for all eternity. On the other hand, I do wish life was longer. That’s what we should be focusing on. How can we use our understanding of various scientific fields to create longer, healthier, happier, productive lives while sustaining a healthy planet?
The message in this clip is subjective at best. If Gervais randomly decides that life is beautiful because it has a certain end, why can’t someone else have a polar opposite idea of wanting to deal as much harm to people as they can before they die. Because these two ideas are fundamentally equal in the sense that “we make our own meaning” and no one can really say that any of them are wrong. Basically, the message is subjective. However, if someone provides an actual case for Existentialism/Nihilism I’m all ears. Keep in mind, I’m not trying to offend anyone, I just wanna have a conversation. Peace
This scene isn’t brilliant, it’s just the rehashing of ideas that aren’t even original to this scene. It screams 12 year old atheist who never aged mentally. It’s just the direct opposite of a pureflix film, straw man arguements with half baked answers to terribly constructed questions and all, where the ‘opposition’ suddenly realises that they’re wrong and that the protagonist’s opinion was simple to grasp all along.
Something he says is precious(life)came randomly into existence by chance according to him,regarding the Kevin heart movie it has many creators e.g director,producer,editor and actors behind it for the movie to exist which gives you the pleasure in perusal it,now with out them can a movie existence randomly?and death is not the end…it’s the part of your journey WHICH HAS NO END!!
I think if there is live after death, that might be more scary. The fact that you can’t relive your live once again the way it was. That you dont have a choice anymore, but your consciousness is still there. If you die, and that it. You dont own that. You memories gone. Nothing is left. And if there is afterlife, then you still remember and you realize that live moves on. People mives on without you, and you accept it, or other souls will be tired of you, and regardless you will stay alone. We are born alone and we die alone. So to believe or not to believe its like choosing bettween two evils. Atheist ⚛️ are fearless cuz they dont care that they are alive or not. Sience it doesnt matter. They just enjoy the moment. While religious people are scared of living cuz they are worried that they won’t be perfect enough to deserve afterlife they want. Im agnostic and I do belive in heaven or reincarnation. Depends on the person. I just know that energy doesn’t disappear. Its just unlouds. And if we all have neurons that goest through our bodies and minds. Then where does it go? To the atmosphere? Maybe. In the 1800s people already knew it existed. There where theories about it begin the proof for soul existing.
What a sad way to look at life. I believe in a heaven and I know that in this corrupt, evil, and disgusting world that there’s another world where it’s beautiful and is a place where true peace exists. It’s a place where you live forever, knowing there’s no end to it. Why are people satisfied living in this world of lies and hate? I want to live forever, not live temporarily in this messed up world and then that’s it. What a sad existence if God isn’t real and there’s nothing after this.
What I love about this show, is that Ricky’s Character is slowly starting to find things he loves again. He said about how you never know when its gonna be your last so do everything with passion, and you can see in this article when he talks to Kath the passion behind his words and the smile at the end. He has fun making jokes and talking to her, she’s his comic relief and she doesn’t even know it. Sometimes even small things can be so important.
There is a quote i like so much and heard it from Matthew in true detective show “if the only thing keeping the person decent is the expectation of a divine reward then that person is a piece of shit “, i totally agree with that, if your religion of faith is what stopping you from doing bad things then you are the true devil here, however i do consider having a faith or the existence of religions in general as a necessity evil because it gives people hope, many atheists would just say okay i will just live my life and enjoy it as much as i want before it ends but this only works if you having a good life, i have seen people live miserable lives and can’t even afford to buy a meal and at the end of the day you ask them how you doing they respond that they r fine and thanking god anyway, why do think they do that ? Because they believe that they will be compensated in the after life, they have hope that this is a just a passage, and taking this hope away from them will make it worse for them and may kill themselves because here the question “what’s the point ” makes more sense but having hope reassures their heart and see them smile despite the miserable conditions they live in, just imagine someone done something bad to you and got away with it and let’s imagine that we confirmed that there is no hell or heaven ! How do you think you will you would feel that this person will not be punished at all ? My point is that the existence of religions is important for some people because it gives a meaning to their lives
I shouldn’t have been granted the gift of life. I feel like I’ve wasted the 19 years I’ve been here and I can’t force myself to actually treat myife like the man here. Every second in my hands feels like a second thrown away into the void of lack of meaning. Every time I try to shift my view by exposing myself to the harsh truths of existence I just end up convulsing in tears or otherwise falling into a panic attack only for nothing to change. Why can’t this worthless piece of crap I call myself find a reason to be besides not having any other option than to be? I’m such a failure that I don’t even feel like I’m worth the right to exist. I hate myself for ot so much! I’m sorry that I am what ended up being born of my parents. I’m sorry that I’m taking space. I’m sorry.
The argument is: if there’s no afterlife, there’s no point in life. Let’s think of two scenarios. You spend your whole life laying in bed, waiting to die, because you know there will be an afterlife. One day, you die. Scenario 1: there IS an afterlife, and you get everything you want. Scenario 2: there’s no afterlife, and you wasted your only chance to live. It’s scary to think about, but let’s make two more scenarios. You live your life to the fullest, and you make every day count, changing the world for the better along the way. One day, you die. Scenario 1: there is an afterlife, and you appreciate it more because you know you’ve earned it. Scenario 2: there’s no afterlife, but you lived a good life and took the chance to live to the fullest.
I’m atheist, or rather agnostic because that works better for me. Because then you don’t end up in discussions with people that want change my mind. So you can just say : I don’t deny God or heaven or hell because I have neither proof of their existence nor their absence. But she very accurately plays a character of someone I might have had an awkward discussion with as well. Because of my autism I have this more “idiot avoiding” kind of method. I’m betting Ricky’s way of dealing with it is to write the most perfectly played out dialogue on the subject most of us have seen and then perform it as well.
Being a good person just so you can end on Heaven doesn’t necessarily make you a good person. That’s like saying if you do a million good deeds and never anything immoral then I’ll give you a billion dollars. Also, it’s sad that a lot of people that think they know the Bible and Christianity don’t actually know it that well.
“because he has a conscience” In the religion I was raised in, “conscience” was something given every human by God. As we grow and sin, it becomes “seared”. It becomes less effective at keeping us from doing wrong or bad things. That’s why we need God, and the bible. So, atheists can’t use the argument of “having a conscience” I don’t believe any of that anymore but I’m just letting people know if you (as an atheist) try to use the concept of “conscience” when talking with a Christian, chances are they’ll tell you “God gave you your conscience and that it’s become tainted or full or seared or broken or something… So be prepared for that.
The atheist looks very comfortable answering this question. On that same token, I would also ask the atheist, why stop anyone else from doing what they like? Why stop a robber? Why stop a rapist? Why speak against injustice? If it all ends here in this lifetime, and you want to watch this movie to the end, might as well let those you consider evil, live their best life too. Right?
I don’t think life worth that much, It’s good to be alive, but there are so much moments of pain and suffering and you only see futility around you, which makes me sometimes just wanting to be gone and put and end to all that meaningless existence. Because if there’s no meaning in life so there’s no meaning to be alive suffering too. That’s why I believe in God, because I’ve experienced things that I can’t explain and I believe that the reality it’s too much complex to be just something that randomly happen with no meaning in it. I contemplate the human conscience and its complexity, it’s like a micro-cosmos, one single cell has more information than a whole library, it knows what it must to do, like if it was programed by the Creator. Even though I’m not sure about the Creator, who it’s is and where it’s, I believe in him/her and don’t need to follow any religion to have my faith in a superior force that I will never be able to comprehend and understand its reasons. The same way life was unlikely to existe and yet here we are, I think the same thing is applicable to the afterlife, the same way you just happened to exist in this reality you can simply happen to exist in another after that one, in the end it’s a matter of faith, and I do have faith. We all are going to have our answers in the end so let’s just wait until that.
I’m not a theist, but Gervais’ analogy isn’t a very good one. If while perusal the movie you become convinced you won’t remember anything about it, then that would be a better analogy. Similarly, “You only have a finite amount of time, so don’t waste it”, that sort of argument doesn’t work either. For starters, Gervais gives no argument for there being no afterlife. Secondly, a lot of theists enjoy being religious. And third, why not waste it if the time is finite? What, am I going to regret wasting my life after I die? Not without an afterlife I won’t 😉 As to the question, the point is simply to enjoy your life. Allowing others to do the same is the most reliable way to ensure you yourself can continue enjoying your life (i.e., you won’t be throw in prison or killed in retaliation for harming someone else).
The fact is he does have a good point but that’s for the strawman. It’s an argument DESIGNED so he can say that, if it were a real confrontation it’d be fair enough but it’s honestly kind of pathetic how he definitely just came up with that and went ooh I’ll put that in a scene then wrote the whole thing around him being right and not even starting the argument. Like this guy just wrote a speech and shoehorned it into a scene
This idea some Christians have that we atheists won’t have morals frightens me, do you know why? Because it means they required a book, or a preacher to tell them what came naturally to us, that killing or stealing is bad. It makes me wonder if crime would go through the roof if we didn’t have religion because clearly some people truly need a book to tell them right from wrong. Even if it weren’t for the consequences of crime the vast majority of people have compassion and simply don’t do bad shit because they don’t want to see someone hurting.
I watched Young Sheldon last year and i remember he was reading a book and he quoted from the book something about it being beneficial to believe in god coz u have nothing to lose. I actually found that quote or whatever it was quite interesting and really made me think. Edit: Found it. Pascals wager. “Either God exists, or he does not exist,” argued Pascal, “and since neither proposition can be proved, we must wager. If we wager that God exists and we are right, we win everything. If we wager that God exists and we are wrong, we lose nothing.” “You would be impudent,” Pascal said, “to wager that God does not exist.” So Pascal infers that if you wager that God does not exist, and you are wrong, you will suffer eternally.
No, if there is no after life everything you done in this life is no different then hitler, your life is the same as hitlers both did what they wanted to do and then death came. All the pain and struggle in your life is pointless and justice is an impossible task if no afterlife exist. An example if two guys have an exam, one person studied and got all question right meanwhile the other gets all wrong and both get the same results anyway. The exam was pointless. This exam is life. Your action is significant and will be accounted for, your death is not an escape. This life is precious because this is your only chance to enter paradise. Life with afterlife where people are accountable for their good and evil deed is meaningful meanwhile a atheistic life is a pointless pleasure party with no real accountability (best example gengis khan),
“BITCH” now if so many people are telling me…. This movie is going certain way… With various endings some happy and some sad…. But it’s going to end any way… Y need to wait for the best/WORST parts of the movie… Just skip to them early and END IT WITH YOUR OWN WILL…. WE DON’T HAVE TO ENDURE ALL THIS …… MOVIE❤ I just want the certainty and predictability of the end. rather than searching/waiting for the unpredictable now which is meaning less if u think abt IT
👏 👏 👏 👏 P. S. If it wasn’t scripted they’d tear each other’s throats out. Probably Also. I’d like there to be something else, more, beyond. But even if reincarnation is a thing, then you still only get each of those lives once. Each of those different unique lives, merely, once. (This’s an extra point adding to his)
I am an ex-atheist, the only thing where he is completely wrong is when he says you should do everything passionate that you love,like because,we humans dont really know whats best for us. we could like something thats not good for us and for others too. And I don’t understand how do people even think once that life came out of nothing i.e. there’s no God.
But you won’t remember any of it when you’re gone so why live it well? It’ll be no different than the memories you have of the centuries before you born. Nothing. You won’t even be able think about contemplate the nothingness. You’ll just cease to exist. And why be nice to others? When they die they also won’t remember any of it. It’s all pointless… …or
Love yourself and never give up, I don’t want to see anyone in pain, everyone can be great and is great. Never let anyone speak for you, never accept something that can’t possibly happen. Life is fragile and we must respect it, from animals to people and trees. There is too much bad weather and earthquakes. We need to change and focus on the weather now, I’ve been watch it for years and now this shit happens and I get blamed for something that was not my fault. I did not do anything, rather was thrown into a dark place that I never wanted to go to, I am free now and can speak about why I released my old emotions from the past and why I had to be authentic and get past my social anxiety, its because I needed to warn people that the food supplies could possibly running low because of floods, locusts and everything else that has been happening with the weather recently.
I dont know guys, the only beauty in life is death, knowing that it will finally and eventually all end, there is no joy or pleasure to be found in the “movie”, it’s just there, humming and buzzing in the background of the black canvas that life is. The sole solace in life is death, and the sooner we get to that line the more blessed we are, unless of course, you particularly enjoy being alive.
But life isn’t beautiful… it’s tragic, and horrible. It’s cold and uncaring. Our brains are so used to misery, it has fooled us into liking minor things like a flower, or minor moments in life that provide us a minor break from reality. It’s quite insane to live a life just to cherish those very very few moments which you will just move on from in a manner of seconds. If I was torturing you for hours or days, then gave you a minute free from torture and distracted you with something, would it make you want to keep on being tortured?
I agree that argument against atheism is dumb but ironically, here we have atheists being portrayed on the defense. 99% of the time Dick appeared on TV was to attack religion, including the movie itself and most of his stuff. And many atheists now are on the offensive yet they portray themselves on the defensive. I’m not talking about theists are right and atheists whine, theists can be hella toxic but so can atheists too, Dick is an example.
It’s always bothered me how some religious people often claim to be so thankful and appreciative of their life and existence and yet they ask for a second life before their first is even over. And why even an eternal one? Doesn’t that imply that you’ll be dissatisfied with what you have for a literal eternity, never really moving on? Even when it just comes to existing, as quantity goes up quality goes down, so you may as well be in hell then.
Is this whole show just ‘Ricky Gervais takes on religious strawmen’? It still doesn’t answer the question particularly well. Surely just because something is finite doesn’t inherently make it meaningful, right? Surely just because something is enjoyable, that also doesn’t necessarily make it meaningful. Her question is also sensible, but only if you scratch just beyond the surface level of the skit. Maybe Ricky’s character doesn’t enjoy abusing and murdering people, however there must be at least one person in the world that does find that meaningful. What then? There’s also the question of conscience that the third character mentions, but that goes into a whole other rabbit hole…
The problem is that it sounds all good, until you think about it too much. This is why Tom Sawyer says that staring into an abyss causes the abyss to stare back into you. The best way to deal with the finality of life is to not think about it, which is intellectually dishonest, but it is what we all do. There are those however, who think that it’s weird for meaningful creatures to live in a meaningless universe, and so they become religious, and as long as they avoid certainty, this is an intellectually honest way to live.
I love how he says that to her while being a hypocrite just because he does not believe in an after life does not make it true either and his logic is stupid to the only thing he’s right about is that life is precious and we should cherish that but he compared it to a movie you can rewatch the movie because your alive but everything REALLY is a waist like working hard and doing right or wrong is a waist when there is nothing after why work so hard and have morals and not have all that freedom if it’s pointless she is still right all of it is a waist including living if at the end we don’t get to rewatch our lives as a movie at the end it’s nothing what the point of life Ok you enjoyed it selfishly but that’s all even the suffering is not worth living for
I think this is not even close to the main arguments against atheism. This one is a more intelligent approach (ask for meaning), usually people are upset how you can deny the mercy of the one true god (no matter which one). Atheism itself is not really about meaning just about not believing into gods because there is no proof, it doesnt have a vast philosophical system behind it. Unfortunately recent atheist movements have incorporated dogma like ideas which have made some of them very “unpleasant”, showing quite a lack of selfreflection.
I respect his opinion but I still believe in afterlife. For starter, people are not created equal in this world. Some people born in rich family while some people live in poor family. You cannot control where you want to be born but you can change your life in the afterlife by being a good and decent people on earth. Some people born with talent and can do anything while some people born without any talent and need to train really hard to achieve one skill. There are people that try really hard but failed while the others achieve success first try. Therefore, in my religion, god will still credit the people for their hardwork evenntough god himself did not give the people success. All the credits that we collect from living such as do homework, go to school and even give food to dog will be rewarded in afterlife. That’s why I also believe in judgement day. Since we are not equal, the rules in earth also not apply to all of us equally. The rich can get out of prison time if they bribe enough the police. There also cases that prison time are different according to skin colour I mean what the hell? They both commit the same crime. That’s why in Judgement day, we will be judge equally. No negotiation needed. God will judge to you according to everything what you have been done on earth. Are you cheating on exam to pass? Are you steal snack bar on walmart or are you steal from poor to keep your bank account 7-8 digits? All sins that you has been done will be judge by god and god cannot be bribe I mean common, god and human are not the same species.
There’re so many fallacies here that can be refuted easily. It’ll just take time. The analogy of enjoying a movie, and ending it abruptly halfway because it’ll eventually end is such a broken analogy when used to juxtapose against the question she posed “if physical death was an end in itself, why live?” This clip does not answer the question at all… Just sidesteps it by reframing and addressing it from another vantage point. If he had an adequate answer, he’d just answered her plainly. But as it is, this question, when ruminated over without self pretence, exposes all our sense of meaninglessness. So, like the main character in this TV series, he simples brushes it away with a cop out explanation. He did not confront the existential question here, head on.
Lol I overdosed on K2 when I was 20, I was dead for 9 minutes. I didn’t see a light, but I was Conscious in darkness. It was like a darkness I could see through. Had.. These baby like demonic creatures appeared out of the darkness and started dragging and ripping my limps into the a place I couldn’t see through. I felt no pain but the image were so surreal. I’m a stoner but I still thinks about that to this day.
I think Rickey makes an interesting analogy, however I feel as though he is slightly wrong in this matter. People don’t stop perusal a movie because they know that it will eventually end, they stop perusal a movie because they know HOW it will end especially if that ending is BAD. I mean if you think about it what’s the point when everything you can or will do will amount to the same conclusion nothingness. Hence why most people whom have pondered on this choose to live our lives to the fullest and enjoy it as it’s not about the destination but the journey instead. Sadly many people don’t realize this and “things happen” or they do realize this but twist it to meet their agenda and then “things happen”.
Squidwards late wife was a goldfish that was captured and sold to a pet store. She starved to death in her own waste water, alone at the bottom of the tank. She was an expert clarinet player that never got the opportunity to make it big. Squid used to promise her that all of the sea would one day hear her music. Now he attempts to honor her memory by mastering the clarinet and bringing the music she wrote years ago to the world.
“Why, I’m a pet goldfish in a-!” “You’re a genetically modified fish kept in a too-small habitat for the entertainment of land-dwelling creatures?” “…” “… that’s it, right?” “I-…” “Didn’t it occur to you that miiiiight be in poor taste? Didn’t you wonder why people were POINTING and **whispering?**” “… I am so sorry.” “You should be.” “Sandy, lass, I, uh, I’ve had some complaints, and, uh… I’m gonna hafta ask y’ta leave?”
The neutral Ending:Squidward just walks away. Bad ending:Squidward thinks this act of racism isn’t okay. He punches her. Good Ending:Squidward gets the joke and just laughs. Perfect ending:Squidward tells Sandy that Racism isn’t okay. Sandy understands that it is better to respect other Species. Everyone gets along well.
Squidward Didn’t even regret of murdering a woman For the charges of Squidward, he will be getting a life for first degree murder while he was thinking about it and gaining attention to killing Thousands of dollars for breaking Sandy’s protection glass which can cause her to die aswell if the glass can cut Sandy’s face off 1 Life + 5K+ Dollars