The Wiccan Degree System is a traditional practice in many covens where a new initiate waits a year and a day before they can be granted their First Degree ranking. This time, the initiate studies and follows a lesson plan design. Most paths of Wicca follow this traditional practice of insisting on at least a year and a day of study.
The degrees of Wicca denote the experience level of the witch. To ascend through the ranks and earn your degrees, you must learn what it takes to ascend through the ranks and earn your degrees. The degrees are sets of liturgies that contain the basic earmarks of “complete” Traditional Wicca, meaning that the Degrees, regardless of Tradition, will be recognized.
Starting with Wicca 101, you can learn the basics of Wicca and advance and earn Wiccan degrees at your own pace. Our online classes are available 24/7, with every lesson less than 15 minutes long.
As in Gardnerian Wicca, there are three levels or “degrees” of initiation: first, second, and third. Only a second or third degree witch can initiate another into witchcraft, and only a third degree witch can initiate another to third degree.
It is estimated that only 5-10 of the practicing witches adhere to Wicca and would know what you’re talking about. Margaret Murray distinguished between “ritual witchcraft”, the religious aspect, and “operative witchcraft”, the practical techniques of the witches’ craft.
The concept of degrees in Wicca is widely misunderstood, but Margaret Murray distinguished between “ritual witchcraft”, the religious aspect, and “operative witchcraft”, the practical techniques of the witches’ craft. Young black women are leaving Christianity and embracing African witchcraft.
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What are the levels of Wicca?
Alexandrian Wicca, like Gardnerian Wicca, is a traditional witchcraft system that believes that only a witch can make another witch. The process of becoming a witch involves initiation, which is divided into three levels: first, second, and third degree. A third degree witch can initiate another into witchcraft, and a third degree initiate is called a “High Priestess” or “High Priest”. The Farrars published the rituals for these ceremonies in Eight Sabbats for Witches.
Some Alexandrians have introduced a preliminary rank called “neophyte” or “dedicant”, allowing neophytes to examine the tradition before committing. However, they are not considered to have joined the tradition until they take first degree. Historian Ronald Hutton notes that distinctions between Gardnerian and Alexandrian Wicca have blurred in recent decades, and some initiates of both traditions recognize initiation within one as qualification for the other. Author Vivianne Crowley trains students in both traditions, and Alexandrian priestess Mary Nesnick created the Algard Tradition in the United States.
What is the hierarchy of a witch?
Lineaged Wicca is a religious practice that is organized into covens of initiated priests and priestesses, which are autonomous and headed by a High Priest and a High Priestess. These covens typically consist of five to ten initiates and are usually single-sex and non-hierarchical in structure. The initiation and training of new priesthood is typically performed within a coven environment, but this is not a requirement. Most covens do not admit members under 18, and when they do, they do so through pagan magazines.
Some covens organize courses and workshops for prospective members to assess. The ideal number of members for a coven is thirteen, but this is not a strict rule. Many U. S. covens are smaller, and the membership may be augmented by unaffiliated Wiccans at “open” rituals. Some covens are short-lived, while others have survived for many years. In the Reclaiming tradition, covens are often single-sex and non-hierarchical, and members who leave their original group to form another, separate coven are described as having “hived off” in Wicca.
What are 13 witches called?
A coven is a group of witches who gather at night to make potions and cast spells. In mythology, they meet under cover of night, often in mysterious groups of 13. The “weird sisters” in Shakespeare’s play “Macbeth” could be considered a coven. In contemporary Wicca, a coven is a gathering similar to a congregation in Christianity. The word “coven” originated in the mid-1600s and means “assembly”.
What are the levels of witchcraft?
Alexandrian Wicca, like Gardnerian Wicca, is a traditional witchcraft system that believes that only a witch can make another witch. The process of becoming a witch involves initiation, which is divided into three levels: first, second, and third degree. A third degree witch can initiate another into witchcraft, and a third degree initiate is called a “High Priestess” or “High Priest”. The Farrars published the rituals for these ceremonies in Eight Sabbats for Witches.
Some Alexandrians have introduced a preliminary rank called “neophyte” or “dedicant”, allowing neophytes to examine the tradition before committing. However, they are not considered to have joined the tradition until they take first degree. Historian Ronald Hutton notes that distinctions between Gardnerian and Alexandrian Wicca have blurred in recent decades, and some initiates of both traditions recognize initiation within one as qualification for the other. Author Vivianne Crowley trains students in both traditions, and Alexandrian priestess Mary Nesnick created the Algard Tradition in the United States.
What are the rules of witchcraft?
The Wiccan Rede, which states “An it harm none, do what ye will,” serves as the primary ethical guideline for Wiccans. The Threefold Law, which places emphasis on the importance of adhering to the ethical principles of “mind the Threefold Law you should, three times bad and three times good,” serves as a guiding principle for those seeking to live a positive ethical lifestyle.
What is a male witch called?
The term “witch” is primarily used in colloquial English, with women being the male equivalent. Modern dictionaries distinguish four meanings of the term: a person with supernatural powers, a practitioner of neo-pagan religion, a mean or ugly old woman, or a charming or alluring girl or woman. The term “witch” was first used to refer to a bewitching young girl in the 18th century, and “witch” as a contemptuous term for an old woman is attested since the 15th century.
Who are the 9 witches?
Akko Kagari and eight other witches, including Lotte Jansson, Sucy Manbavaran, Diana Cavendish, Amanda O’Neill, Constanze Amalie von Braunschbank-Albrechtsberger, Jasminka Antonenko, Ursula Callistis, and Croix Meridies, have established themselves as the New Nine Witches. It is unknown if each witch resembles the original nine witches. In Little Witch Academia: VR Broom Racing, the band reformed, with Ursula and Croix replaced by Guest Student and Neby. Some hats and headgear are based on witches from other media, such as the Scarlet Witch and Witch Bandora / Rita Repulsa.
What is a first degree priestess?
Attainment of first-degree status signifies a transition from the novice to the rookie level of proficiency. This requires a minimum of two degrees of training and experience before the title of “High Priestess” can be conferred, thereby allowing the individual to be addressed as “Priestess.”
What is the hierarchy of covens?
Wicca covens are typically led by a High Priestess and a High Priest, with some being led by only one or both. Modern pagan witchcraft can sometimes be run as democracies with rotating leadership. With the rise of the Internet, Wicca practitioners have established online covens, teaching tradition-specific crafts remotely. One such coven is the Coven of the Far Flung Net (CFFN), established in 1997 as the online arm of the Church of Universal Eclectic Wicca.
However, many online covens limit memberships to 10 to 100 students due to potential membership sizes. The CFFN attempted to devolve its structure into a system of sub-coven clans, which ended in 2003 due to concerns that the clans were becoming communities in their own right.
What kind of powers do witches have?
Witchcraft is a belief system that involves casting curses, using magical words and gestures to inflict supernatural harm. This can involve inscribing runes or sigils on objects, burning or binding a wax or clay image, or using herbs, animal parts, and other substances to create potions or poisons. Witchcraft has been blamed for various misfortunes, with illness or death being the most common form of harm in Europe. In some cultures, witches use something from their target’s body to work magic against them, such as hair, nail clippings, clothing, or bodily waste.
This belief is widespread in Europe, Africa, South Asia, Polynesia, Melanesia, and North America. Indigenous peoples in Africa and North America also believe that witches cause harm by introducing cursed magical objects into their victim’s body, such as small bones or ashes. In some cultures, witches use human body parts in magic, and they are often believed to murder children for this purpose. In Europe, cases where women killed their children due to postpartum psychosis were often interpreted as yielding to diabolical temptation.
What are the 9 covens?
The primary nine covens include the Flower Coven, the Artist Coven, the Big Dog Coven, the Small Cat Coven, the Tiniest Cat Color Coven, and the Grumpy Coven, among hundreds of other options.
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This, for me, is the best article Nick has done, he seems to speak from the heart and IMHO captures the spirit of the AC -from what I have read. With freedom comes personal responsibility to each other and the biosphere with that comes equality under the old gods. If you have read anything about him, you can see he does not just speak it he lives it. No need for redes,it’s living life for others of whatever species they are.
I have to say thank you. Finding your articles is like a breath of fresh air. I do not know how it goes where you live, but here in the states unless you are wiccan and fallow the reed people look down on you. You for the most part have to act like a fluffy bunny. I am a Witch as is my wife. What you are sharing on these articles is what we have thought we were fir years and it is nice to see others. I would like to learn more about the old ways. can you point me in a direction of books or any thing
I agree, I was in training for my priest training and my wife was for her Priestess and what should have taken a year turned into 2 and a half eventually things went ari with the group we where in and we left. I could have my lisence, but they wanted you to go though things that where compleatly unessisary and they used it as leaverage against us.
PLEASE MAKE AN AUDIOBOOK! Your voice and speech presentation is absolutely fantastic. Crystal clear and concise. I would love to help out in anyway possible to achieve this. Audiobooks are great for me because i like to learn while i work, which for me is riding a lawnmower for the City of Dayton. In my free time i am an artist and apprentice jewelry maker starting school in the fall towards a degree in biology. I need an itunes playlist so i can even learn in my sleep! Much love!!
that is SO wonderful… I’m Wiccan, but I respect every other religion there is. When angel Gabriel was asked by the pagan folk which religion was the right one, he answered… “The one that brings you closest to G-d.” There is no superior and no lesser religion. They just stand for different ways of becoming one with the divine.
I really like this article. The guy doing it is very good. He is formal and he speaks in a way that is very understandable. He makes it sound less supernatural and more natural 🙂 I have been been a pagan for a near seven years, but a wise person knows that he/she must be taught the same lesson many times over.
Very educational. Thank you for the post. And for the Christians on here I wish you well and please respect our rights to freedom. Jesus is a great role model and I believe in harm to none- I wish that I could have been there to save Jesus because only I can atone for my sins…I am a Witch and I live with the laws of nature.
so i dont care about speels and magic i just want peaqce in life and in nature, the talk of magic acctusally makes me not want to dig deeper, but the things i have seen and expirenced in life leads me to pursue peace through the understanding of what we cannot see but only feel. the spirit is what we need to feel to see peace in the world.
Well spoken!! So very important to cleanse & sheild esp. if you are a health care worker (Nurse,MD,CNA etc.). Often I would come home form work w/ the energies of my patients or feel drained from giving my energy to others during the day. Or adversly, I would receive energy from the positive actions in my daily care. Smugging, grounding & cleansing have helped gr8tly. Thank you very much for your kind words of magick… Blessed Be!! *)O(*
“Thanks very much for posting this article. Besides some fairly specific errors in explaining scientific concepts I think this article was clear, informative, and interesting. The fact that you attempted to relate science to a spiritual concept at all shows an open and informed view. Please continue these articles! ” – Blackmage777 I second that. It took me over 3 years of research to piece together everything covered in this article. It’s very informative.
i’ve kind of been interested in getting into wicca for a long time but I can never seem to get into it. I think its because I never come across info that helps me to get started. This was a good and interesting introduction. I will watch some more articles, maybe they will help me to get into wicca. thx
yes they do. it’s called Witch School. He has three degrees of it and a book after called witch school ritual, theory, and practice. These are by Rev. Donald Lewis- Highcorrell. They are amazing! I’ve started on the year and a day (that’s how each book goes) and its exactly like the article only more detail 🙂
Magic is simply a synonym for “Knowledge”, like “Science” means Knowledge; in antiquity there were many threads of understanding, many different “Lore’s” -the knowledge of Herbs, and medicines from Nature was widespread-as was the realisation that the power of ‘Intent’ or personal Will can be disciplined and directed. What we call ‘Visualisation’, and ‘Affirmation’ is the Magic of the old World.
The “energy” He’s talking about is actually *quintessence*, which *may be* or related to the Dark Energy theorized by quantum physicists. Internal and/or external *intrinsic energy*(Quintessence) is what is accessed & used in magick craft. Don did make an error about saying electro-magnetic energy holding particals together. Electro Magnetic interactions *may* be involved in magick to some degree. I reccommend people read “Science of the Craft” by William Keith.
I know the curriculum, as I had a handful of theatre and art students students who I tutored in paper-writing. So, I have experience what is learned in those programs. Also, ad hominem arguments are only a deducted point if they are not accompanied by a solid argument. Anytime I called anyone anything, I had already made my original point.
I think we can all learn something good from every path and I like to learn as much as I can about all of them. I personally, being Wiccan find it fulfilling because I do like some order and guidance to my magick, and perhaps it is because I am not yet ready to try chaos magick. I would like to learn more though 🙂
@Lyviathon The only answer I can personally give to you from my training is that it takes a Witch, to make a Witch; it doesn’t matter if the respective Coven is Gardnerian or not. My own training is a mix of Gerald Gardner, O. Alexander Sanders, and Gavin and Yvonne Frost, and I am a full-fledged Third Degree High Priest – I was initiated 20 years ago.
at times I worry about the “casting your pearls before swine” concept….and by that I mean sharing stuff with people who will not appreciate it…will put it down…will run it through the muck etc. then again..they would not come here if something did not spur them on. Perhaps it will cause them to research Wicca better. thanks for this article Rev. Blessings Ravy
@897Sparrow Firstly, I am responding to this from my other YouTube account, one that I had set up specifically for my Wiccan teachings; feel free to click on my user name, and subscribe to that website if you wish. As far as what you have stated above, I am always on the path of learning, and one of the toughest lessons I have at the present time is learning how to be tolerant of other ways of teaching Wicca, so please forgive me if I seem arrogant; it’s a character flaw 🙂
Magic can be used for a variety of things, from healing to divination, from cleansing to communing with the Divine. There are many ways to know if magic worked, just like there are many ways to know if prayer worked. Some people recite spells that are already made up. Some create their own. I prefer the later. It adds a power that wouldn’t be there otherwise. But that’s just me. It’s very individualistic.
I agree people need to understand they can still understand and love their religion as Fiona Horne said they are in the past that is fine to know for knowlege is good but not allowing the spirit to move forward. Wicca and witchcraft are for to move forward and to give change and good development of the spirit.
i was originally attracted to wicca, not because of the magick, but because of the peace and love that the it shows. I love nature and life in all forms and believe that every person, regardless of gender, race, or orientation, is equal. At first i didnt even want to practice magick because the thought scared me. Then i relized that what the goddess and the god are is not eveil in the leat, as i was taught bein raised strict christian. I love wicca and i am proud to be a witch 🙂 Blessed Be )O(
Query on the “Law of 3” If you see someone that is commiting evil (manipulating an innocent toward corruption for example) – will karma still come back to effect you negatively if you prayed for this person to be removed from the earth? If so, if praying for peace does not shift someone who is evil (i.e., praying a Hitler, Stalin, etc. would leave the physical world) then what can we do to protect ourselves and others? Thank you
As a Wiccan I say thank you for this article. As for the stereotype of the drug using Wiccan, I must say I am appalled. I would never use drugs, I can reach a state of tranquillity without them. If you are to do magick it is said you need a trained conscience and a discipled will, something unattainable while under the influence.
really good article and I plan to watch the rest of the series but I`m having trouble with the part about Kharma and the rule of three. I`ve seen a lot of really good people who seem to get nothing but bad luck and vice versa. How can we really know that the good acts you perform will come back to you? How do we know it`s not just random? What force governs these rules?
There are actually a great deal of things that a lot of people consider christian but have their roots in paganism. It used to partly be to ease the merging of pagan cultures into the conquering roman empire. Unfortunately somewhere down the line everyone just started saying “yea…we totally thought of that shit.” But it hasn’t been until recently that people are coming out and saying “no…they totally thought of that shit…and then you stole it.” kinda interesting to learn these things imo.
Thank yo9u so much for putting this together and posting it upi for everyone. I have been interested in paganism for some time and everyone tells me to read to lean more, But i have some learning disabilites which combind make it very difficult to understand what I have read, so now from this, i can lean more Thank You! n_n
I think that in the hands of the right people wicca could be very useful.I believe that the uses of wicca can be used to help people.I am in legal studys.I have been tought morally and by education that you except all people what ever there life style.Dont judge what you dont understand.There are things going on around us that people are blinded to.Some are more in tune with these things.
I am new to Wicca and anything that has to do with magick. I am not religious by any means. I am a middle age woman and all of a sudden I have been having a strong calling to the craft. I meditate on a daily basis; however,, I don’t know how to meditate to enhance my psychic powers. Can you please post a article about it?
hey “bluehaze”, wanna know something? i´m 24 years old and i was unce a christian too, when i was your age. when i became wiccan, all my life got better! believe my, I bet you didn´t suffer such as i did when i was christian. all changed when i became wiccan, allot of beatifull things happened in my life! what do you say about that? believe what you want! your only 13, do not make the same mistake as most christians, by trying to make others believe in what you believe.
@EvodiusTheophile I guess that the Meditations offered in different Martial Arts varies in Sequence or Manner. I will look into the Subject by asking occuple of my Masters. I am Great Friends with Grand Master Frank Santana here in the Dominican Republic, we are like Family. He taught us how to recieve Energy from a Tree by asking it permision to do so. I never Grasped the Whole Concept but Wish to do so. Blessed BE!
I agree! New ideas are often not quickly accepted. The abuse of the term energy has been going on thousands of years and if there was anything to it, it would have produced some reproducible results and been old news. Much like the true secret at the core of the cult of Pythagoras now taught in schools.
@iluvhomebiz This very Kind teacher is not trying to “Fit In” all the knowledge within a 12 minute article. This is just one of a vast series of lessons,well structured and informative. The Divinity aspects are covered in future Lessons. You are a Pagan yourself try being a bit more respectful of your Pagan Brothers and sisters.Blessed Be
@gotohell114 The link I sent you involved a study of how emotions (loneliness) can be transmitted to people who are three or four degrees seperated from you without physical contact like the monkeys. Just a question for you: what do you think magick is? It seems that we might be working with two different interpretations for the same word here, which would explain our disagreement, because honestly, I don’t see any conflict between science and magick.
@gotohell114 The link suggests that emotions are transmitted without direct applied learning, as was the case with the monkeys. However, I don’t expect you to agree with this or understand it. You have chosen not to so I am going to end this debate now. (Though I expect you’ll want the last word in, and you can have it.) On parting: You asked why magick can’t heal amputations? the answer you recieve from me is the same that you would get from a scientist: We haven’t figured out how yet.
@EvodiusTheophile Fair point indeed, just ‘wishing’ something does not make it necessarily So. I was really intending to illustrate the old wisdom that “As you think, so you create”-we create our own realities from our thinking-you can fashion your own development via visualising: not in an ‘abaracadabara’ sense-it’s a subjective complex area though.
@Shadowsilas oh. well my main point originally is that when you post or say nasty things all the time, you can expect to get that back in your face even 100x more than you initially said. I know that from experience. So to keep people from tearing each other down (and eventually themselves down), I just wanna encourage people to think before they post. Even online words can cause real pain. “do unto others what you would have done to you.”
This does not work for me. When I suddenly break the meditation and go to wash the dishes, I don’t need to feel too spiritual. I just read about how important it is to formally close the ritual by saying a phrase at the end or by grounding and releasing all the energy to the ground, so I think I am gonna use that.
I have one single comment and i could care less what anyone thinks. everyone, even christians satanists wiccans, everyone has an opionion. my thinking is simply this. All forms of religion,wicca,christianity,anything that people get in groups,voodoo things we dont understand, they come from our own inertia, they come from power, forms of gathings powerful things. its only called humanity. i am wicca i believe much diferntly then most. easy on your teachings dude.
thank you, mylastsin 😀 you are, indeed correct. i’m a wiccan (actually, i’m part wiccan, mostly a witch but saying that i’m a witch causes a lot of raised eyebrows and if i say wiccan nobody knows what the hell i am talking about…) anyway… yeah eternal life… not happening. first you go to the summerland and then it’s reincarnation, so… 😀 but i didn’t watch this article, the guy bored me out of it in the first 45 seconds… does it bet better after that?
This is the difference between you and I. You look down upon me, call me an evil witch, turn your back on me and slap me with some kind of satanic label, which has nothing to do with Wicca, by the way. However, I would hold my hand out to you, protect you, guide you when needed. Even after you did that to me.
All I’ve done is presented real, researchable information to support my ideas. You have only attacked my mindset and “fact” in general. That makes it impossible for you, or anyone, to win. However, that reasoning is considered flawed by the world at large. Like I said, look up some of your fallacies in a debate book or on a website.
sorry if i offended you.. i am sorry i a am taking it for granted if it is cus i am so angery..i jaust dont see peace at all…i mean my question is this…how do you get peace without fighting for it..but then again we dont like to fight at all..i just cant see it..what is it..please tell me when i can see it
Merry Meet, The new Witches tell us the story about the old religion,it tells us a bit of the story about Wicca in Belgium and in Holland. It tells us the story about a male witch, Charon, (Walter van Coppenolle and many others). It shows us the good work of the Pagan Federation. watch?v=YgxFB1FiiaI Blessings of IsIs
but maybe theres some things in gardenian wicca that are derived from his experiences in freemasonry. im not really sure on that. it’s quite possible he picked up so mote it be from that. but again it is something archaic and may have been used in other things. not sure. but either way you can read up on a lot of freemasonry stuff on the net. i suggest doing it, its pretty interesting. rooted quite deeply in american history and culture.
Stay away from anything Ravenwolf. Try reading Gerald Gardner since he created the religion. If you want to go with where Gardner got most of his stuff, try reading Aleister Crowley. Stay away from the “OMG I’m a 9th generation WICCA” type of bunny. There are also other paths in paganism that might be a better path so you may want to look around and observe a bit.
@gotohell114 No apology is necessary regardless of the outcome of this debate. I enjoy being challenged and you have done so while maintaining a degree of civility. My entire argument is based upon the premise that absolute lies do not exist. In order for something to be presented as reality it must have some basis in fact somewhere. Often that reality is based in the middle ground. The validity of that middle ground must be heeded or we risk losing knowledge somewhere.
A few examples of the 108 Laws that are uneccessary/not relevant anymore IMO, for reasons that should be obvious: “4. As a man loveth a woman by mastering her ” “5. So the Wicca should love the gods by being mastered by them.” “18. And the greatest virtue of a High priestess be that she recognize that youth is necessary to the representative of the goddess. “
@gotohell114 …though controversial, does have scientific backing. For instance, the “100 monkeys” experiments of Koshima Japan in 1952 established that life is, indeed, interconnected in a way that cannot be quantified by our 5 senses. What many who call themselves “witch” are partly seeking to discover is the nature of that connection. Where faith goes wrong is when dogmatic rules are established limiting human development. Then problems do arise.
@JEFFREYKWONDO I see where you’re coming from with this, I guess I was out of hand with my ignorant rants. I can’t, in good conscience, hold a grudge against someone I don’t even know, about a topic I don’t know about. I try to be nice to everybody I meet. I wasn’t expecting anyone to really respond to my comments. At least not in a negative way, thats what set me off.
@gotohell114 ..and yet quantum physics tends to support the theories. It’s quite easy to cherry pick information and post it on the net, BTW. I did mention that the 100 monkey theory was controversial, however the immediate claim that all paranormal activity is immediately dismissable on the grounds of improbability is just as dangerous as naive adherence to unproven metaphysical phenomena. I myself choose to believe in some of this phenomena because of my personal experience. cont…
@gotohell114 “anytime a person or society guides itself by faith rather than evidence it is a step backwards” The potential for spiritual growth or otherwise “can” be inhibited by faith when faith itself is misunderstood and twisted. However, many of the things that are considered “faith” are merely aspects of reality that science has yet to explain. For instance, many pagans, such as myself, practice “magick”. The workings of this practice, though controversial, (damn. continued…)
@gotohell114 Yes, meditation is another word for what I believe is being demonstrated here. All the “attached” you see aids certain people in the meditation techniques. That’s why people go to certain pagan belief systems. I don’t have the time to give you a lot on effecting others, but I have a link that will give you info on a scientific, and seperate, study that basically supports the 100 monkey principle. I’ll post it on my website and pm it to you.
I truly believe that all religions are valid, as long as they aim towards the greater good. You know, Jesus said, love one another, Wicca says, don’t harm none and that what you do comes back, the Three Fold Law. I just don’t think Christianity is for everyone. We all are different and need different ways to connect with the Powers that Be.
yeah my grandfather was a freemason, and hopefully i will be too. they’re very much not a religion. they are religious, but in a broad sense. basically naming a grand architect. pretty much anyone besides atheists can be freemasons. i wasn’t aware gerald gardner was a mason, but so was george washington, benjamin franklin. lots of people. a lot of them are christian but a lot of churches, mosques etc denounce freemasonry because of their secretive nature.
I have read several books on Wicca and Wiccans. Not by choice, mind you, but it was needed for research. However, you also have to understand that there are so many different books claiming to be definitive books, and those that claim not to be but are written as though they are, that reading a book on Wiccan would be like reading a book about imaginary friends. Everyone seems to have their own, and none of them really seem to substantiated. It’s for fun.
You realize that that is circular reasoning? How can you dismiss the words of a fool when you aren’t supposed to dismiss what you don’t know? If you can define that you do know something, then you admit that there are facts. In order to find me foolish, you must find me wrong. To find me wrong, you must accept something as truth.
@gotohell114 Science to me is merely magick explained. Magick being defined as using your will to change the world around you, which can be accomplished through scientific (reliable but limited) or supernatural (unreliable but unlimited) means. You are free to think of me as off track. That’s to be expected. My beliefs are mine to have, not to expect others to understand, and that’s fine too, as I don’t push them on anyone.
@gotohell114 very true. I completely accept and support your lack of belief untill you have proof. I only wish that you might be just open enough to the possibility that you do not resort to cruel mockery of everyone who believes in it. Your last post certainly was far better behavior in that regard than i’ve ever seen from a typical athiest/skeptic/etc.
@gotohell114 No, quantum physics states that what we view as reality has been scientifically substantiated to be dependant upon belief. For instance, you believe what is being taught to be a lie and so that is how you see it. Others, such as myself, look at what is being taught and instead of having predetermined it to be a lie, we evaluate it honestly, if subjectively. cont…
Sorry for that remark. I admit I acted a bit immature that time. I’m no Christian nor am I an Xian. I’m AGNOSTIC. The only thing I believe in is truth. Science and religion makes wise men dumb. Please visit Truthism(.com) and read the context to understand my ideology. “Thinking is probably the hardest work to do,which is probably the reason why so few engage in it.” – HENRY FORD
Well, I’m not going to bog down this article’s comments anymore. I don’t see how youtube, which is much larger and overused, is any different than MySpace. As matter of fact, they’re both owned by huge corporations, they’re both pretty much frequented by the same clientele, they’re both free, and they’re both a place for people to upload illegal articles. I don’t really even understand having a preference, unless you’re just being some kind of elitist internerd. Who knows.
So If You Warship Crist You Will Be Not A Wiccan You Will Be Kind Of Paladin Or A White Mage, Or Hight Mage. So If You Want To Practise Just Find Info In Internet About This Classes Of Kindreds. No One Ever Said That You Must Be Totaly Wiccan To Do Good Frue Magick. All That The Witches And Wiccans Want Is Doing Good And Live Peacefuly With Others.
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, WITCHCRAFT, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Gal 5:21 Envyings murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
@gotohell114 Just because people are connected to their spiritual bodies and their chi force, this does not make them God’s; we all may get there someday, existing as pure energy forms in the Universe. Until then, we must return here to the physical plane, life after life, until we have learned all that is needed to be learned here, and only the Gods themselves know when that time might be. What this convo boils down is a refusal on your part to accept what is right under your nose.
@sfhhy I don’t believe in the ‘Christian-Wiccan’s’ concept; first and foremost, no self-respecting Wiccan (especially if they have been initiated into Witchery) is going to try to mix the two ideas – they are pretty much complimentary opposites, but cannot be interchanged. The Christians practice a sort of repression of the Spirit, while us Wiccan Witches practice freedom and ascension of the Spirit – ascension to the One. Being a Pagan in and of itself encompasses a belief in an Earth Spirit.
a couple of things first religion and science u cant mix them, even if scientists could prove there was no God or any supernatural guess what ppl would still believe, why? that little word faith. Look at all the Christians who believe a literal interpation of the bible. secondly Wicca in any form is awesome. Blessed Be
i really believe that it would benefit all people trying to revive old traditions to study hindu rituals…as they are an unbroken stream of tradition….the pagan / witch movement is too tainted with judeo christian distortions….a great place to start is with the “PUJA” ritual worship of idols….hindus worship the gods long abondened by europeans!!! most anthropologists agree hindu dharm resembles what pagans in western europe practiced…yantras(sigils) mantras(invocation) etc. etc.
No, I mean if a Wiccan isn’t going to have any respect for this comments section–where I intended to post one negative comment–then I won’t either. I don’t see any point. The truh is, you want to stay in this format because you think anyone in the world is reading this garbage. All of the people who know no real information would be on your side in your fantasy. Just send me a myspace or an instant message and quit bein’ weird.
@gotohell114 No, that’s not what I am saying. What I am saying is that the world isn’t as black and white as “lie vs. truth.” For instance: A scientific truth used to be that electrons orbitted around the nucleus of a cell like planets. However, we now know this to be inaccurate, (thanks in part to quantum physicists.) The electron exists in an electron cloud. Was it a lie? No. It was a rough understanding of reality. continued…
That’s only because Wicca is new. People have little understanding of things they don’t associate with. I don’t know what you define a freaky. But it’s impossible to accurately define a whole religious group with just one word, especially in a religion like Wicca that encourages diversity. Wicca is all about worshipping nature, same with Native American spirituality and Shintoism.
@EvodiusTheophile Ok here I would have to disagree with you but again, it is my perspective on things. Whenever anyone tells you that the Universe in made up of Consciousness, it is True. One might not experience this or understand this 100% of the time. In-order to Comprehend this Subject one must first understand the different Densities in Existence. We actually pertain to the Third Density of Conscious Life while Animals, Plants and such things pertain to a lower or higher Density. Look it up
@gotohell114 By using black and white terminology like “lies” and “deceit” you are automatically closing off a potential avenue of knowledge. Does this stuff work? It’s not as reliable as many scientific advancements we’ve made, I think we can agree on that, but even if it works just once, for one person, then there is an element of truth to it. That truth must be acknowledged because it indicates reality on at least one level.
Wow, that was long winded and I learned NOTHING about how to put some mojo on the young woman who serves me my coffee at the Duncin Donuts. What lesson is the love spells? Didn’t this guy ever see an episode of Charmed? That’s the stuff I want to know. Learning there are molecules in rocks has gotten me no closer to my goals. And I also want to know where the naked dancing festivities are held.
@gotohell114 The human mind desires to make sense of the world around us because it has been programmed to search everywhere else for the answers to life questions, when in reality everything which we ever want to know about ourselves and how we fit into the grand scheme of things lies within our human spirit. There is meaning to everything that happens in our daily lives, and all of these things are connected in some way – again, those answers are right where we live – our immortal spirits.
I’m pretty sure that talking snakes, men raised from the dead and a Magical Kingdom sound just as much of a fairytale then horns, a symbol of authority. Horns on a figure in Wicca is like a halo, it’s a sign of divinity. A God with horns show that he vary powerful, loyal, self-sacrificing and is vary close to Nature. It’s metaphoical, not literal. No one really knows what Gods looks like.
He lost me when he made the incorrect claim that EM -Electro-Magnetic energy holds together atomic structures. EM is not an atomic force, like The Strong Force that contains elemetary particles within atoms, EM is a force of electrons moving from one atomic valance shell to another. If he got that wrong right off the bat, physics 101, what else did he get wrong…
I don’t disagree with your overall thought line, but I should point out two things. 1)There is no religion called ‘Muslim’. A Muslim is a person who practices the religion of ‘Islam’. 2)Islam started several hundred years after Christianity. Muhammed (sp?), who started the religion of Islam, considered Jesus a prophet to the Christian people.
What is there to learn? I have read the holy books of the Hindu’s (NOT abridged), Buddhists, Christians, the Rabbinic old testament, four books on Wicca, The Mormon Bible, and the Qur’an. I cannot find a Scientology text. There is nothing there to be learned. You need to read them when you write articles about them. You can’t have people telling you you haven’t, like Dawkins has happen.
Actually, the fault is mine. I used a bad example. You were explaining that you had proof that Hitler did studied the occult. Assuming you were exclaiming this on a wicca article, one could only reasonably connect the two. The actual example should have been: Many of the crusaders who caused murder, slavery, rape and injustices..were Christian.But that doesn’t mean *everyone* who’s a Christian approves of such atrocities. I compared this to eye color and race just to explain how trivial it all was
have you ever considered that your view of black magick is closeminded? in the same way that christians are closeminded about wiccans and witches, so are most wiccans and witches closeminded about what satanism and black magick really is. perhaps looking into this, and how black magick and the reversed pentacle are just as sacred as white magick and the upright pentacle, will be enriching for you and for all 🙂
@gotohell114 By claiming “there is no truth” (which, I will take you as meaning “There are no facts supporting these claims.”) you automatically limit yourself to the possibility that these phenomena might be verifiable using scientific means that we have not yet discovered. Skepticism has its place. However, it can be just as limiting as those who would inhibit us using faith.
@WORLDARYANREVIVAL Religion is one of the biggest plagues in this most Beautiful Ancient Earth! It is so very sad indeed! If only one was enough Spirit and Soul to do something about it! Makes one feel week and almost useless to the Real needs of this Earth. So True. Its how I feel about this subject, “unable”.
@AngelaSzekeres I’m more than just a moron, I’m a moron who gets a free cup of coffee from the cutie at the Duncin’ Donuts — no thanks to this guy. This guy has no love spells to teach. I had to win my coffee server over the old fashioned way. It cost me dinner and some time but it was worth it. (Dropping a note in a burning cauldron would have worked for me as well if it actually did work but I have my doubts now).
Again, this is not the proper forum. Use the proper forum. Philosophy, though, is not a replacer for fact and information. I’m glad that you have a degree, but a degree in glassworking doesn’t really translate into much in the real world. READ the messages and contact me accordingly if you would like to continue.
20 reasons to abandon christianity 1.Christianity is based on fear 2.Christianity preys on the innocent 3.Christianity is based on dishonesty 4.Christianity is egocentric 5.Christianity breeds arrogance, a chosen-people mentality 6.Christianity breeds authoritarianism 7.Christianity is cruel 8.Christianity is anti-intellectual, 9.Christianity has a unhealthy preoccupation with sex 10.Christianity produces sexual misery
Mind control. Self-meditation. EVERYONE can do it. Not just 1 specific religion, ne1 that can THINK can do this. God gave that to all of us. Why so much Hate? If Christian prayer works for you, Wicca, Buddhism, yoga, drugs, your own special words or images. But if you have Hate, Anger, and Assumptions in your words, then karma will bring it BACK to you. Ok, like i need more info. on psychic shielding cuz that sounds interesting:)
Private message? I never sent you a private message. The only comment I left on this was saying that Christianity could be taken as racist just as anything else. Thats when you came in and called me a hypocrite. I did go back and read them. I’m not lying. I may have just missed something. I dont know. If thats the case I apologize. Anyways, I’m done arguing about this. Its stupid. We both have our opinions so lets leave it at that. If I offended you then I’m sorry. I just lost my temeper.